Does it *hurt* you to look at people? (eye contact)

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08 Sep 2006, 3:53 pm

It doesn't hurt me or keep me from focusing,
it just feels weird.



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08 Sep 2006, 3:58 pm

I think I have an unusual approach to social situations. Unless I felt particularly threatened, like where I knew I'd get picked on, I tended to take an overly aggressive approach to socializing. I think until I got it mostly under control with feedback, people probably found me kind of obnoxious and over-bearing. I'm a social sniper now. I have a plan of attack for talking to someone. I know what I want to say, I look them in the eye for a measured amount of time, and then I clam up because I don't have plans after that.

I heard or read somewhere that people think you're lying if you don't look them in the eye. I was particularly concious of it for job interviews. I was also accused several times of being a horrible listener so I've become very concious of that. So now I think I'm the creepy staring type who's digging a hole through your head with laser beams while you're talking to me. I could probably stare down a goldfish.



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08 Sep 2006, 4:36 pm

It doesn't hurt me, I just don't feel very comfortable with it. I don't make as frequent eye contact with others as NT's do. But then I tend to make people think I am making eye contact with them by focusing on areas just below their eyes. This works for me and no one notices. However, there are a couple of people I know who I am totally comfortable making eye contact with. As a child, I found eye contact a hell of a lot more difficult. As I have got older I have found it less difficult.


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08 Sep 2006, 4:46 pm

Back when I was in school I would just focus my eyes on the background behind the person.. with them blurred out it was easier to keep looking in their direction.. but then I kept getting "Uhh.. I feel like your looking right through me.. your creeping me out.." so I had to stop :P


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08 Sep 2006, 5:19 pm

Dalebert wrote:
I think I have an unusual approach to social situations. Unless I felt particularly threatened, like where I knew I'd get picked on, I tended to take an overly aggressive approach to socializing. I think until I got it mostly under control with feedback, people probably found me kind of obnoxious and over-bearing. I'm a social sniper now. I have a plan of attack for talking to someone. I know what I want to say, I look them in the eye for a measured amount of time, and then I clam up because I don't have plans after that.
So now I think I'm the creepy staring type who's digging a hole through your head with laser beams while you're talking to me. I could probably stare down a goldfish.


I too learned both that I did not feel about eye contact in the same way others do, and that it was a powerful social tool. Now I control it carefully (along with every other social signal) and use it to punctuate, affirm, and connect. ...sometimes in my youth i used it for a kind of revenge: i could stare anyone down and make them uncomfortable and feel my intensity, and see how they might handle it. Once a drunk man stared at me for about two minutes, and i didn't let up -- the next day he apologized and said he meant nothing of it. My soul had been pierced. --Pretty much no one has understood why i'm so intense: but we see the world as such! Horrible beautiful piercing world!

In my development I seem to have inwardly responded to the overwhelming sense flow with my own equally intense response. -- Root also of our awkwardness and inappropriateness, blindness.



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08 Sep 2006, 5:46 pm

It doesnt hurt with me, never will



08 Sep 2006, 6:35 pm

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08 Sep 2006, 6:35 pm

It never hurt me when I looked at people. I just don't do it because I'm shy, it makes me uncomfortable, it's annoying, and I don't see any point in it. I have ears and I'm not deaf.
I only do it to some people like my mother.



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08 Sep 2006, 6:43 pm

I find it physically painful. A brief glance is merely uncomfortable, but sustained eye contact becomes more and more painful the longer I hold it. I feel it throughout my whole body down to the very tips of my toes. I tried to describe it to my family as "it's like all the bones in my body just grew thorns on them."

The pain/discomfort is lessened if the person is far away though. If someone is on the opposite side of the street, then it's less painful.



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08 Sep 2006, 7:01 pm

It doesn't hurt, but it feels uncomfortable in a way that could, if it were more intense, be described as pain.



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08 Sep 2006, 8:52 pm

Fraya wrote:
Cherokee wrote:
It is i just can't spell or wright very well.


Ah no problem and in retrospect I might have sounded.. mocking? Disapproving? I dont know anyways I dont like the way I wrote that I was just curious I have a lot of friends from other countries who dont write english very well and I tend to want to tutor and help people like that for some reason :P


That’s perfectly alright Fraya. Being bad at righting is something I know and except about myself, so it doesn’t bug me when people point it out. Also I wrote that post a little bit worse then I normally do, because I didn’t use the spell checker or take my time with it. Anyway no offence taken.



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08 Sep 2006, 9:55 pm

I am rarely aware that anyone is doing it. It would have to be one of those real saucer eyed stares for me to notice.

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08 Sep 2006, 9:57 pm

Paul, I only just realized that paulsinnerchild must mean Paul's Inner Child, after staring at it for several minutes. Thought it was Paul Sinner Child, which didn't make much sense.



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08 Sep 2006, 10:07 pm

superfantastic wrote:
Paul, I only just realized that paulsinnerchild must mean Paul's Inner Child, after staring at it for several minutes. Thought it was Paul Sinner Child, which didn't make much sense.


http://forum.asperger.asn.au/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1984
I made it clearer on the link to the forum above but is does not bother me it is you think otherwise. After all I was a bit on an autie boy

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09 Sep 2006, 7:45 am

For me it's uncomfortable and it does hurt. I always look at their shoulder or just past.



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09 Sep 2006, 9:22 am

It does hurt but there are varying degrees of discomfort according to who the person is and what kind of eyes they have, I find brown eyes are not as bad as paler ones, I don't like looking strangers in the eye, people who are attractive or people who are angry but children are fine, I like to look dogs in the eye but apparently its not always a good idea because they may associate this with aggressive behaviour. Sometimes I feel people can see into me when they look and see something I can't, I love sunglasses. If I've been shut away for a time I find the eye contact pain is more pronounced if i've been mixing the feeling dilutes a bit.