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14 Sep 2011, 10:16 am

The annoying prick should have been locked up for longer than 18weeks.

I hate it when peps act horribly to others, then blame their disability. THEY GO ON TO CAUSE EVEN MORE SUFFERING FOR INNOCENT PEPS WITH AS....

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14 Sep 2011, 10:22 am

At 25 he should know better.

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14 Sep 2011, 10:30 am

Freedom is the right to do things that we don't like and/or find disgusting. If you only are free to do "socially acceptable" things, you are not reaaly free.

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14 Sep 2011, 10:31 am

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And I'm sorry, but if you jumped in front of a moving train, you're pretty damn stupid and deserve to die. Survival of the fittest, my friends...

She was committing suicide.

Comes from my town. The things he said and did were horrible, and on one occasion he impersonated on of the friends of a dead person and the friend ODed on drugs as a result. He also had a prior caution. Yes, he might not have realised the effect his words were having at first, but his Asperger's should have stopped being a mitigating factor after the police caution, if anything you'd probably expect him to stick rigidly to the rules now.

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14 Sep 2011, 10:35 am

Harassment and bullying is and should be illegal to some degree, but it has been my observation that the standards in the US are different than in Britain. The judge should dismiss Aspergers as a mitigating factor.
As an American I am amazed that the UK has ASBOs, the concept to me seems to be ridiculous.

The best counter measure is too ignore and/or marginalize a person such as that. This person should be actually reported to Facebook, he is probably violating the TOS. I think a court case gives a stage for people like this that viewpoint should be taken seriously.

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14 Sep 2011, 10:40 am

nemorosa wrote:

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That's still ret*d. If someone is trolling, you ignore them. Absolute freedom of speech should always be upheld on the internet.

Why should the internet be a special case? In "real life" is taunting grieving families that their dead daughter was a whore acceptable? What about freedom from emotional distress? In any case we don't have "freedom of speech" (in the US sense) in the UK, for which I am very glad.

It depends on what taunting means. Are you directly e-mailing or phoning the person, that would be harassment. I very much prefer the "US style" of freedom of speech. Banning from forums and blacklisting would be appropiate.

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14 Sep 2011, 10:49 am

DerStadtschutz wrote:

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And I'm sorry, but if you jumped in front of a moving train, you're pretty damn stupid and deserve to die. Survival of the fittest, my friends...

If you said that about a loved one of mine I would hate you for it, but I think you should be ignored. You would not be worthy of the dignity of a court hearing.

I don't mean this as a personal attack just using an example.

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14 Sep 2011, 10:57 am

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The difference is that Duffy was sentenced in Britain. He probably wouldn't have been to court in the US. There is a consistency. Britain wouldn't allow members of the Wesboro Babptist Church to enter the country.

Well okay then, my mistake. I didn't realize this occurred in Britain. Forget I said anything.

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14 Sep 2011, 11:00 am

The_Walrus wrote:

DerStadtschutz wrote:

And I'm sorry, but if you jumped in front of a moving train, you're pretty damn stupid and deserve to die. Survival of the fittest, my friends...

She was committing suicide.

Well I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of that. I thought it was an instance of playing around on the train tracks and "train dodging" or whatever they call it. I've been hearing about it on the news a lot lately, but I haven't really paid much attention to it. I just know of it... But anyway, I say good then... Not good that she's dead, but that her suffering, whatever it may have been, is now over.

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14 Sep 2011, 11:02 am

jackbus01 wrote:

DerStadtschutz wrote:

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And I'm sorry, but if you jumped in front of a moving train, you're pretty damn stupid and deserve to die. Survival of the fittest, my friends...

Well, while I understand why that would upset you, at the same time, I have to look at it with logic. If one of my friends did something stupid that got them killed, I'd be upset and sad, but at the same time I'd realize that what they did was stupid and not get pissed at someone for stating so. But we're all different, and we're all entitled to our different opinions and standpoints.

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14 Sep 2011, 11:57 am

DerStadtschutz wrote:

Am I the only one who remembers when the supreme court ruled that the westboro baptist lunatics were protected by freedom of speech to say whatever they wanted at military funerals? How the hell is this any different? I'm not saying that what either Duffy or the "god hates fags" people did is right, but I am saying there needs to be consistency, or what's the point of even having a law or a bill of right in the first damn place?

And I'm sorry, but if you jumped in front of a moving train, you're pretty damn stupid and deserve to die. Survival of the fittest, my friends...

This is ridiculous. And it has nothing to do with aspergers. Freedom of speech should be upheld no matter what. Or else they need to start throwing those "god hates fags" people in prison too. This is a buncha sh**. He's a dick for harassing them, but he shouldn't be thrown in jail for it.

You are close, but they actually have to stay a certain distance away if they are demonstrating. Your freedom of speech ends where my freedom to ignore you begins, so to speak. Harrassment/Disturbing the Peace are the types of charges that end of from attempting to violate my freedom to ignore you. Basically, this applies to internet forums, as well as real world establishments, if you want to play at my house, you have to follow my rules.

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14 Sep 2011, 12:29 pm

I'd say this is where 'freedom of speech' collides with 'freedom from abuse'.

From what I understand, you're allowed to say negative things that are true. But if you're saying something that isn't true, or something that has no literal meaning and is just hurtful, you can get in trouble for it.

Besides, AS doesn't mean lack of empathy, just difficulty knowing how others are feeling. And it's pretty clear that he knew he was hurting the families and just didn't care. After all, he did get a police caution.

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14 Sep 2011, 12:38 pm

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Freedom is the right to do things that we don't like and/or find disgusting. If you only are free to do "socially acceptable" things, you are not reaaly free.

This.

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14 Sep 2011, 1:15 pm

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DerStadtschutz wrote:

The difference is, the Westboro people believe they will bring this country back to God. They believe in their twisted way they are doing the country a favor by protesting at these funerals.

The 25 yr old Duff sounds like he just wants to upset the families of the victims. He has no political agenda.

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14 Sep 2011, 1:15 pm

No excuses for this.
But, I am aware of particularly the newspapers associating AS with negative things more, which is probably going to fill all the "believe-everything-you-read" minds with more disdain.

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14 Sep 2011, 1:26 pm

This is so f*king ridiculous. Im getting really pissed off to high heavens for all these psychotic pieces of s**t who do disgusting crimes and cause misery to others and are listed as ''AS'' in court, Just to get an easier sentence.
Are all the murderers and pedophiles going to turn out to have it too??? Where is the line!
Ignorance!! ! There is a big stigma already! This justice system is extremely poor and blood curdling.
Society is ignorant enough over AS without more fire to fuel the flames of our battles

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