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21 Sep 2011, 10:32 pm

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Aparently talking about my special intrests/obsessions is annoying to some people.


You wouldn't happen to like Meerkats, would you? Isn't Timon one of the COOLEST characters ever?!


How did you ever guess? Yes, Timon was how I got into meerkats. I've slept with a stuffed animal of him for years. He's so worn out and falling apart at the seams, I'm afraid I will damage him even more so I sleep with a Sonic (my newest special intrest) stuffed animal now.


It was a lucky guess. Magic, if you will. :wink:

I envy that you're comforted by sleeping with a stuffed animal. The only thing I could imagine being comforted sleeping with is... something with a pulse... and you can't readily buy that as easily as a stuffed animal, lol.



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21 Sep 2011, 11:01 pm

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sw wrote: I'm suspecting Schizohprenia,


Simple or classic?



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21 Sep 2011, 11:17 pm

swbluto ;

have you taken the test at iautistic.com/test_AS.php ? it's based on the DSM and could help with your uncertainty.



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22 Sep 2011, 12:56 am

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sw wrote: I'm suspecting Schizohprenia,


Simple or classic?


Heck if I know. I'm not hallucinating nor am I that delusional, but I seem to have some of the negative symptoms plus these annoying speech problems

Anyway, I just checked out the youtube videos of stuttering and I definitely don't stutter. My language usage is remarkably fluid most of the time, at least it was when I was talking to myself in front of my computer. Haha.

It just seems like, my mind goes "blank" for a second or two in the midst of talking, and somehow the previous or recent word or words get repeated. It's almost like my computer when it freezes; the recent sound byte in the sound card's RAM gets repeated over and over when the CPU "locks up". I can only think that somehow the CPU of the brain gets locked up for a split second (It's called attention, perhaps?) and the recent words or set of words in the phonological loop repeats itself involuntarily, and I have no idea until I reread it and see the offending repeat. I think this probably also happens without my awareness in real life

Just recently, I was driving and I started "zoning out" while saying an address over and over in order to remember it and I was repeating it obsessively, like a valley girl and their unending series of OMGs. After a while, my cousin mentioned "Ok, I think we get it!" and I realized I was starting to zoning out in repeating it (My mind was focused on driving, so it got distracted from controlling the repetition of the address and so it kept getting repeated?).

When I have to start thinking of words of real life objects in ordinary conversation, though, it seems that it can sometimes take a lot longer than normal to recall the word associated with the idea/object in mind, sometimes.



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22 Sep 2011, 1:01 am

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swbluto ;

have you taken the test at iautistic.com/test_AS.php ? it's based on the DSM and could help with your uncertainty.


Jeez, I was almost fairly certain I didn't have AS due to my ToM experiment with the Gucci handbags, but now that test has renewed my doubt.

I'm thinking I need to come up with a grand life epiphany in regards to this AS thing. It's getting really tiring being in a constant cycle of "Yes, I probably do have it" to "Wait, probably not.". Like, somehow, I need to come up with reasoning to make the status of AS something irrelevant or extremely unimportant to think or know about. I need an epiphany.



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22 Sep 2011, 1:26 am

swbluto wrote:
Mdyar wrote:
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sw wrote: I'm suspecting Schizohprenia,


Simple or classic?


Heck if I know. I'm not hallucinating nor am I that delusional, but I seem to have some of the negative symptoms plus these annoying speech problems

Anyway, I just checked out the youtube videos of stuttering and I definitely don't stutter. My language usage is remarkably fluid most of the time, at least it was when I was talking to myself in front of my computer. Haha.

It just seems like, my mind goes "blank" for a second or two in the midst of talking, and somehow the previous or recent word or words get repeated. It's almost like my computer when it freezes; the recent sound byte in the sound card's RAM gets repeated over and over when the CPU "locks up". I can only think that somehow the CPU of the brain gets locked up for a split second (It's called attention, perhaps?) and the recent words or set of words in the phonological loop repeats itself involuntarily, and I have no idea until I reread it and see the offending repeat. I think this probably also happens without my awareness in real life

Just recently, I was driving and I started "zoning out" while saying an address over and over in order to remember it and I was repeating it obsessively, like a valley girl and their unending series of OMGs. After a while, my cousin mentioned "Ok, I think we get it!" and I realized I was starting to zoning out in repeating it (My mind was focused on driving, so it got distracted from controlling the repetition of the address and so it kept getting repeated?).

When I have to start thinking of words of real life objects in ordinary conversation, though, it seems that it can sometimes take a lot longer than normal to recall the word associated with the idea/object in mind, sometimes.


Check out simple S. It has the negative only, but the condition removes you further out from people contact, in a progressive decline.


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Thought is revealed through speech.[according to whom?] Thus, observation of patterns of thought naturally involves close observation of the speech of the individual being considered. Although it is normal to exhibit some of the following during times of extreme stress (e.g. a cataclysmic event or the middle of a war) it is the degree, frequency, and the resulting functional impairment that leads to the conclusion that the person being observed has a thought disorder.

Blocking – Interruption of train of speech before completion. e.g. "Am I early?" "No, you're just about on..."(silence) At an extreme degree, after blocking occurs, the speaker does not recall the topic he or she was discussing. True blocking is a common sign of schizophrenia.

Circumstantiality – Speech that is highly detailed and very delayed at reaching its goal. Speaking about many concepts related to the point of the conversation before eventually returning to the point and concluding the thought. Excessive long-windedness. e.g. "What is your name?" "Well, sometimes when people ask me that I have to think about whether or not I will answer because some people think it's an odd name even though I don't really because my mom gave it to me and I think my dad helped but it's as good a name as any in my opinion, I think it's a little weird to have the same name as two of my other names, but the fact that I like it, is a good thing... but yeah, it's Tom."

Clanging – Sounds, rather than meaningful relationships, appear to govern words or topics. Excessive rhyming, and/or alliteration. e.g. "Many moldy mushrooms merge out of the mildewy mud on Mondays." "I heard the bell. Well, hell, then I fell."

Derailment (also Loose Association and Knight's Move thinking) – Ideas slip off the topic's track on to another which is obliquely related or unrelated. e.g. "The next day when I'd be going out you know, I took control, like uh, I put bleach on my hair in California."

Distractible speech – During mid speech, the subject is changed in response to a stimulus. e.g. "Then I left San Francisco and moved to... where did you get that tie?"

Echolalia – Echoing of one's or other people's speech that may only be committed once, or may be continuous in repetition. This may involve repeating only the last few words or last word of the examiner's sentences. This can be a symptom of Tourette's Syndrome. e.g. "What would you like for dinner?", "That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question."

Evasive Interaction – Attempts to express ideas and/or feelings about another individual come out as evasive or in a diluted form, e.g.: "I... er ah... you are uh... I think you have... uh-- acceptable erm... uh... hair."

Flight of Ideas – A sequence of loose associations or extreme tangentiality where the speaker goes quickly from one idea to another seemingly unrelated idea. To the listener, the ideas seem unrelated and do not seem to repeat. Often pressured speech is also present. e.g. "I own five cigars. I've been to Havana. She rose out of the water, in a bikini."

Illogicality – Conclusions are reached that do not follow logically (non-sequiturs or faulty inferences). e.g. "Do you think this will fit in the box?" draws a reply like "Well duh; it's brown isn't it?"

Incoherence (word salad) – Speech that is unintelligible because, though the individual words are real words, the manner in which they are strung together results in incoherent gibberish, e.g. the question "Why do people comb their hair?" elicits a response like "Because it makes a twirl in life, my box is broken help me blue elephant. Isn't lettuce brave? I like electrons, hello."

Loss of goal – Failure to show a train of thought to a natural conclusion. e.g. "Why does my computer keep crashing?", "Well, you live in a stucco house, so the pair of scissors needs to be in another drawer."

Neologisms – New word formations. These may also involve elisions of two words that are similar in meaning or in sound. e.g. "I got so angry I picked up a dish and threw it at the geshinker."

Perseveration – Persistent repetition of words or ideas. e.g. "It's great to be here in Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada." This may also involve repeatedly giving the same answer to different questions. e.g. "Is your name Mary?" "Yes." "Are you in the hospital?" "Yes." "Are you a table?" "Yes." Perseveration can include palilalia and logoclonia and is often an indication of organic brain disease such as Parkinson's.

Phonemic paraphasia – Mispronunciation; syllables out of sequence. e.g. "I slipped on the lice and broke my arm."

Pressure of speech – An increase in the amount of spontaneous speech compared to what is considered customary. This may also include an increase in the rate of speech. Alternatively it may be difficult to interrupt the speaker; the speaker may continue speaking even when a direct question is asked.

Self-reference – Patient repeatedly and inappropriately refers back to self. e.g. "What's the time?", "It's 7 o'clock. That's my problem."

Semantic paraphasia – Substitution of inappropriate word. e.g. "I slipped on the coat, on the ice I mean, and broke my book."

Stilted speech – Speech excessively stilted and formal. e.g. "The attorney comported himself indecorously."

Tangentiality – Replying to questions in an oblique, tangential or irrelevant manner. e.g.:
Q: "What city are you from?" A: "Well, that's a hard question. I'm from Iowa. I really don't know where my relatives came from, so I don't know if I'm Irish or French."



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The concept of thought disorder has been criticized as being based on circular or incoherent definitions.[8] For example, thought disorder is inferred from disordered speech, however it is assumed that disordered speech arises because of disordered thought. Similarly the definition of 'Incoherence' (word salad) is that speech is incoherent.

Furthermore, although thought disorder is typically associated with psychosis, similar phenomena can appear in different disorders, potentially leading to misdiagnosis—for example, in the case of incomplete yet potentially fruitful thought processes.

It has been suggested that individuals with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) display language disturbances like those found in schizophrenia. A 2008 study found that children and adolescents with ASD showed significantly more illogical thinking and loose associations than control subjects. The illogical thinking was related to cognitive functioning and executive control; the loose associations were related to communication symptoms and to parent reports of stress and anxiety



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22 Sep 2011, 2:21 am

swbluto wrote:
MagicMeerkat wrote:
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MagicMeerkat wrote:
Aparently talking about my special intrests/obsessions is annoying to some people.


You wouldn't happen to like Meerkats, would you? Isn't Timon one of the COOLEST characters ever?!


How did you ever guess? Yes, Timon was how I got into meerkats. I've slept with a stuffed animal of him for years. He's so worn out and falling apart at the seams, I'm afraid I will damage him even more so I sleep with a Sonic (my newest special intrest) stuffed animal now.


It was a lucky guess. Magic, if you will. :wink:

I envy that you're comforted by sleeping with a stuffed animal. The only thing I could imagine being comforted sleeping with is... something with a pulse... and you can't readily buy that as easily as a stuffed animal, lol.


Before I slept with a stuffed animal, I would sniff my pillow as I fell alseep. I used to sniff my Timon stuffed animal as well. He smells very simalair to how my pillow used to smell. I think one's own scent is very comforting. I've always read that animals are comforted by their own scent so why shouldn't people? I sometimes let my bearded dragon sleep with me but not very often and not at night (unless the electric is out and she can't get heat via her lamp) because I'm afraid I will squish her. When we were moving and my bed and her cage were packed up, I slept on an air mattress and she slept on my face.


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