I might get free antidepressants from the state?

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30 Sep 2011, 10:02 am

I would try to avoid diazapam and benzodiazapenes if at all possible as they are very addictive.

I have tried both SSRI and SNRI antidepressants and find they are little better than sugar pills in my case, however I know other people who swear by them so I guess you have to try them for yourself. The suicide risk I imagine would come in the first couple of weeks you are on them as they do usually take 2-4 weeks to take effect and I have found I actually felt worse during this time, but if that is something you are expecting and prepared for I think you can weather it (and not everyone is affected). Also the SNRI's made me a bit manic and interfered with my sleep.

I found olanzapine (Zyprexa) very effective for me, but I would not recommend this as a first line of attack as it can have some quite serious side effects - I was suffering from VERY severe depression with some psychotic symptoms when I went on it and did come off it again once things were more stable.



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30 Sep 2011, 11:00 am

Alienboy wrote:
Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
How about some: Ritalin, Valium, Oxycontin, Vicodin, Diazepam and Benzodiazepenes?


Actually I have done a few of these and other drugs you didn't list and yes they made me feel great while I was on them.
Maybe my depression is from abnormal emotional functioning and processing, which leads me into a downward spiral of hate
and isolation and this could all be because I might currently be a nonviolent psychopath with growing homicidal tendencies, in
which there would be no hope for me.
Atypical depression can include mood reactivity--temporary positive mood in reaction to positive events. The atypical group is the group that includes weight gain (rather than loss) and more sleep (rather than less).

And, Dark_Lord: I know you are talking about abusable prescription drugs. Antidepressants are not abusable.


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30 Sep 2011, 12:04 pm

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Alright well for those who have mentioned that antidepressants helped you but didn't make you happy...could you elaborate? I know that it was mentioned that it clears your head of negative thoughts so that you aren't wasting away just dwelling on things that go along with depression. I don't have any trouble really getting out of bed on a regular basis because I am going to college and working towards a degree and I write songs and those are honestly the only two things really keeping me alive now. I have thought about suicide or homicide often and I have anger and trust issues with society. I have my reasons, but I go over all this with my psychologist. I also to bounce ideas off her in regards to useful positive self talk methods, which I have been practicing lately. It helps but this of course is no magic trick just as antidepressants aren't magic pills. Well I am disappointed to hear nobody claim that antidepressants make you happy or at least make you more positive. I mentioned in an earlier post that I once tried my friend's prescription Adderall(I just took the recommended dose) and it gave me all this energy. It was great. I felt like all the negative thoughts cleared away from my mind and I was able to focus intensely within the present and whatever task was at hand. I also noticed that I was more social and happier in general...but was this just some sort of high and not what I thought was the cure for depression? I am thinking that I have a chemical imbalance in my brain, which causes my depression and overall state of mind. I was thinking about getting some sort of test done to check if this could be the case. If they found out that I do in fact have a chemical imbalance of neurotransmitters involving serotonin and norepinephrine, etc. could they possibly get me on some sort of medication that would fix this imbalance...which I am assuming could possibly change my state of mind? I speculate because last time I checked, the connection between a chemical imbalance and depression where just theories? I have always been a really quiet, mellow and low energy kind of person...so I am assuming an antidepressant with a more stimulating effects as opposed to a relaxing effect would work for me? How do they go about choosing which pills are most suitable besides this?


They don't make you happy, but they clear the "toxins" out so that you _can_ be happy when something happy comes along, one of those spells when life is good (not doing anything evil to you) and the sun is shining. The happy still comes from yourself. I put "toxins" in quotes like that because that's probably not how they work, chemically, but it's the effect they seem to have (when they work). The things that continually drag you down are gone (assuming that those "things" are in your biochemistry, not in your Real World.) You can be so depressed for so long that you forget what "happy" feels like.



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30 Sep 2011, 8:08 pm

Sibyl wrote:
Alienboy wrote:
Alright well for those who have mentioned that antidepressants helped you but didn't make you happy...could you elaborate? I know that it was mentioned that it clears your head of negative thoughts so that you aren't wasting away just dwelling on things that go along with depression. I don't have any trouble really getting out of bed on a regular basis because I am going to college and working towards a degree and I write songs and those are honestly the only two things really keeping me alive now. I have thought about suicide or homicide often and I have anger and trust issues with society. I have my reasons, but I go over all this with my psychologist. I also to bounce ideas off her in regards to useful positive self talk methods, which I have been practicing lately. It helps but this of course is no magic trick just as antidepressants aren't magic pills. Well I am disappointed to hear nobody claim that antidepressants make you happy or at least make you more positive. I mentioned in an earlier post that I once tried my friend's prescription Adderall(I just took the recommended dose) and it gave me all this energy. It was great. I felt like all the negative thoughts cleared away from my mind and I was able to focus intensely within the present and whatever task was at hand. I also noticed that I was more social and happier in general...but was this just some sort of high and not what I thought was the cure for depression? I am thinking that I have a chemical imbalance in my brain, which causes my depression and overall state of mind. I was thinking about getting some sort of test done to check if this could be the case. If they found out that I do in fact have a chemical imbalance of neurotransmitters involving serotonin and norepinephrine, etc. could they possibly get me on some sort of medication that would fix this imbalance...which I am assuming could possibly change my state of mind? I speculate because last time I checked, the connection between a chemical imbalance and depression where just theories? I have always been a really quiet, mellow and low energy kind of person...so I am assuming an antidepressant with a more stimulating effects as opposed to a relaxing effect would work for me? How do they go about choosing which pills are most suitable besides this?


They don't make you happy, but they clear the "toxins" out so that you _can_ be happy when something happy comes along, one of those spells when life is good (not doing anything evil to you) and the sun is shining. The happy still comes from yourself. I put "toxins" in quotes like that because that's probably not how they work, chemically, but it's the effect they seem to have (when they work). The things that continually drag you down are gone (assuming that those "things" are in your biochemistry, not in your Real World.) You can be so depressed for so long that you forget what "happy" feels like.


Yes I have been antisocial and depressed about it all my life and this is why I doubt that any pill could help me out because I have been so conditioned to isolation and depression that I honestly hardly show any emotion around others even when something really happy happens in my life. I don't ever seem to show enough enthusiasm about things and people have mentioned that before. It is almost as if I act like a robot it is terrible. I am able to relax and be myself when I am at home alone, but as soon as I walk out my door into the real world, it is as if some sort of switch is turned off and I lose most, if not all my confidence in myself and I feel alone and sometimes I even feel like an alien around other people...especially women. My life is a nightmare.



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01 Oct 2011, 5:33 pm

I have a shedload of anger and a lot of violent thoughts and I'm not proud of it, and there it is. I mean, what it is, is what it is. I made a post about what I call crapola department store a while ago and I got maybe a couple of drive by responses here at WP. But no one really engaged and, yes, it was disappointing.

What I would have really liked would be an uncle who's a mobster who would argue with me that he wanted to care of it, that out of respect to please let him beat up these two guys, one, the workplace bully, and two, the manager who acquiesced to this. And that way, if I decided to let it go, I would be letting it go from conscious choice, not because of lack of better alternatives. And I might get also some credit playing the goddam role of Gandhi or at least some acknowledgement, not just because it's expected.

Yes, the standard advice that I should try and be more social when depressed. Good advice as far as it is, but it's about the last thing I feel like doing when depressed. And it's a not a very high percentage thing any way.

Okay, there is a significantly higher suicide percentage among persons who are gay or lesbian, esp teenagers, because of the perception of future social exclusion. And this is not some kind of false perception. The person in question is perceiving all too clearly . . . except, expect long shot hope still counts as real hope. When Harvey Milk got elected in the 1970s he got the phone call he knew he would, from a young person in another part of the country saying thank you, because now there were two new options, move to California or stay and fight.

Offhand, I'd say the movement for Aspie / Autism Rights is where the gay rights movement was in the 1960s. But we have the Internet and can go faster. And we're not going to face the direct religious opposition. But we'll still have unpredicted successes and set-backs. For example, it might be the case that people have a hard time admitting hiring practices are unfair, because they very much want to believe that they got their job through merit alone. Well, we will fight that battle when it comes, and we'll keep working the broad issue. Where it's easier for us to meet each other, our own tribe, and we're more readily accepted by society at large. Where it's viewed as royally uncool to be against someone just because they're on the spectrum. Now, one might think we'd need to get 50% to be against discrimination, but in an interesting way, no we don't, I think once we get 20%, there'll start to be a sea change, and I think there have been studies about this. So, I guess I believe in intellectual hope, but the times I'm excluded, angry, depressed, that is pretty thin consolation.