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10 Oct 2011, 5:52 pm

I guess adding another 5 won't hurt...

16. I hate studying

17. I enjoy fiction

18. I can lie, but I avoid doing it when I can

19. I can usually pick up on sarcasm and I am often sarcastic myself

20. I'm good with abstract concepts

I'm not sure if I should put up stereotypes I used to follow, but don't anymore, and some of the stereotypes I'm not quite sure if I follow them or not. Honestly the shear number of stereotypes I defy makes me doubt being autistic at times.



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10 Oct 2011, 6:00 pm

1. I am too depressed to get lost in any special intrests.
Or maybe I don't have AS and don't have special intrests.....I wonder what other disorders can start in early childhood cause I was screwed up since the moment I was born.



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10 Oct 2011, 6:14 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
1. I am too depressed to get lost in any special intrests.
Or maybe I don't have AS and don't have special intrests.....I wonder what other disorders can start in early childhood cause I was screwed up since the moment I was born.

I have clinical depression as well, but I suppose my depression manifests itself as extreme apathy. I completely lack emotion and really couldn't care less about much of anything.


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10 Oct 2011, 6:32 pm

MoonMetropolis wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
1. I am too depressed to get lost in any special intrests.
Or maybe I don't have AS and don't have special intrests.....I wonder what other disorders can start in early childhood cause I was screwed up since the moment I was born.

I have clinical depression as well, but I suppose my depression manifests itself as extreme apathy. I completely lack emotion and really couldn't care less about much of anything.


I wish that is what it would do to me....I hate having to feel it, I freaking missed class today because I felt so horrible.



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10 Oct 2011, 7:32 pm

1 - I am very messy with details

2 - I am more interested in "social sciences" than in "hard sciences"

3 - I had pretend play as a child (if anything, my eccentricity was that I was too much in pretend play; I remember discussions with my sister - me: "let's play as gold miners"; she "what is the interest of being making gestures? If it was really gold...").

4 - People can spend months (or perhaps years) interacting with me without having any clue about what I am interested (this point is curious because is, at the same time, a stereotype that I don't display - the overtalkative and verbose aspie - and a stereotype that I display - the quite and unsociable aspie)

5 - I never felt any problem in understanding sarcasm, non-verbal language, etc (however, this could mean that I don't have this problems, or that they are so severe that I don't even notice them)



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10 Oct 2011, 7:36 pm

According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?



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10 Oct 2011, 8:10 pm

Fnord wrote:
According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?


I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?


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10 Oct 2011, 8:18 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?


I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?


The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.

An aspie wouldn't torture animals.



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10 Oct 2011, 8:30 pm

Ganondox wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?


I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?


The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.

An aspie wouldn't torture animals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad


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10 Oct 2011, 8:50 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
MoonMetropolis wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
1. I am too depressed to get lost in any special intrests.
Or maybe I don't have AS and don't have special intrests.....I wonder what other disorders can start in early childhood cause I was screwed up since the moment I was born.

I have clinical depression as well, but I suppose my depression manifests itself as extreme apathy. I completely lack emotion and really couldn't care less about much of anything.


I wish that is what it would do to me....I hate having to feel it, I freaking missed class today because I felt so horrible.

I'm sorry to hear that. Have you tried taking medicine for it, and/or perhaps seeking out therapy?

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According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?

Those are stereotypes of psychopaths. I mean, an aspie MIGHT do those things, but they certainly aren't generally-accepted signs of aspergers. Aspies typically have much more empathy for animals than they do for humans.


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10 Oct 2011, 8:55 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?


I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?


The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.

An aspie wouldn't torture animals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad


Yeah, I've heard of the triad, which is how I knew fire setting and bedwetting were associated with psychopathy, but I've heard more recent studies show that enuresis isn't actually related to psycopathy, and that the other behaviors are sometimes just a side effect of abuse related to enuresis. Also I thought the second aspect to the triad was abuse of peers, not firesetting, but I guess I was mistaken.



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10 Oct 2011, 9:16 pm

1. I don't like math (but liked calculus in college, go figure).
2. I do understand sarcasm and figurative speech, but I do tend to take things literally by default.
3. I do have an imagination and did engage in imaginative play as a child, but I used to create my own "worlds" out of my imagination and prefer them to interacting with people a lot of the time...lol, unless it was to try to bring them into my worlds, in which case I got very strange looks.

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10 Oct 2011, 9:19 pm

I understand sarcasm and use it sometimes, but not toward someone to be mean, even if I don't like them. Irony, however, goes over my head usually.

I am not good at math. But I do love science.

I am not good at computer stuff beyond point and click.

I am thin (also mystified that fat is thought to be an Aspie trait)

My voice can have a lot of inflection sometimes, although I also go monotone in some circumstances.

I have many facial expressions much of the time. Too many I think, confusing people.

I don't flap my hands and am still not sure what that or the "total body movement" symptom means. I do touch my face, neck, arms, hair a lot and hold my hands out open toward the front when walking fairly often.

I love figurative language. But I do take things too literally a fair amount of the time or not get it when people are joking.

I have plenty of emotions they just seem to come on at unusual times and be limited to sad, happy and angry and variations of those.

I do not have collections of things nor am I fascinated by parts of objects, trains etc.. I do have special interests but they are mostly in the idea and information realm.

I can make eye contact, but I don't like it (or I like it too much for the situation!) but I am most comfortable looking around and not at the person when I'm talking.



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10 Oct 2011, 9:19 pm

Ganondox wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?


I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?


The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.

An aspie wouldn't torture animals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad


Yeah, I've heard of the triad, which is how I knew fire setting and bedwetting were associated with psychopathy, but I've heard more recent studies show that enuresis isn't actually related to psycopathy, and that the other behaviors are sometimes just a side effect of abuse related to enuresis. Also I thought the second aspect to the triad was abuse of peers, not firesetting, but I guess I was mistaken.



You wouldn't happen to have links to those studies? I'd be interested in reading them.


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10 Oct 2011, 9:22 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Fnord wrote:
According to my GP, I can not be an Aspie because I do not conform to his ideas (stereotypes) of how an Aspie should behave: I do not wet the bed, play with fire, or torture animals.

Where in the flock do people get these weird stereotypes?


I thought those were meant to be red flags for psychopathy. :?


The final one is definately pyschopathy. The rest are more stereotypes of psychopaths, but could be caused by a number of things.

An aspie wouldn't torture animals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macdonald_triad


Yeah, I've heard of the triad, which is how I knew fire setting and bedwetting were associated with psychopathy, but I've heard more recent studies show that enuresis isn't actually related to psycopathy, and that the other behaviors are sometimes just a side effect of abuse related to enuresis. Also I thought the second aspect to the triad was abuse of peers, not firesetting, but I guess I was mistaken.



You wouldn't happen to have links to those studies? I'd be interested in reading them.


I was just paraphrasing Wikipedia. Here is the reference: ^ Weatherby, G. A.; Buller, D. M.; McGinnis, K. (2009). "The Buller-McGinnis model of serial-homicidal behavior: An integrated approach". Journal of Criminology and Criminal Justice Research and Education 3: 1.



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10 Oct 2011, 9:23 pm

MoonMetropolis wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
MoonMetropolis wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
1. I am too depressed to get lost in any special intrests.
Or maybe I don't have AS and don't have special intrests.....I wonder what other disorders can start in early childhood cause I was screwed up since the moment I was born.

I have clinical depression as well, but I suppose my depression manifests itself as extreme apathy. I completely lack emotion and really couldn't care less about much of anything.


I wish that is what it would do to me....I hate having to feel it, I freaking missed class today because I felt so horrible.

I'm sorry to hear that. Have you tried taking medicine for it, and/or perhaps seeking out therapy?


Yeah I tried anti-depressants which made it worse and have tried therapy many times. Now I just need to figure out what to do about this whole college catastrophe I have gotten into and try and get approved for SSI....don't know what else to do, its not like I can go out and get a job at this point.