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11 Oct 2011, 1:05 am

I definately feel like i have gotten better with age. In that i can actually communicate with a stranger in any given situation without studdering, and may actually be able to look them in the eyes without feeling too uncomfortable. I can act like i am comfortable in my own skin, and like i am not on another planet entirely. once in a while though it does start to wear on me, and i feel i have earned the right to be entirely myself for a week or two. that is when i try to spend time alone. i try to take long hunting trips where i can think out much of my internal dialogue without anyone else around. And i find that it is easier now than as a child to make a conscious decision to stop analyzing a particular event or conversation. Basically i feel my mind is under less stress because i allow it to be



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11 Oct 2011, 1:25 am

I've gotten better with age, as I've developed better coping and social skills over time.


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11 Oct 2011, 2:22 am

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Whoever you talked to on ASPartners, they're wrong. You can't hate them for it or anything; anybody can be mistaken; but you've got to check these things before you believe people about them.

Do you have access to a journal article database? You can get access through most university libraries; that's what I do. Take a look at the research on autism and Asperger's, and see how kids with AS progress when they're monitored in these studies. You'll see that invariably they make progress as they age--learn new things, become better at socializing and organizing their time and doing lots of stuff.

Gonna be blunt here: Is this the sort of site where you see a bunch of people who hang out complaining about their AS spouse? People in bad relationships often feel very validated when they can go somewhere and rant; but when AS is in the middle of it, often times things get blamed on the AS that shouldn't be. It can end up giving you a lot of incorrect or misrepresented information.

Regarding AS improving and marriage: If you love someone with AS, you have to love them whether the AS changes or not, same as they've got to love you whether or not you start to get geekier and more AS-like yourself. If you just tolerate their AS, you probably won't be happy together--it's pretty much got to be part of what you love about them.

Thank you for this. You give me hope.



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11 Oct 2011, 6:22 am

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Regarding AS improving and marriage: If you love someone with AS, you have to love them whether the AS changes or not, same as they've got to love you whether or not you start to get geekier and more AS-like yourself. If you just tolerate their AS, you probably won't be happy together--it's pretty much got to be part of what you love about them.


For that matter, you have to love someone for who they are anyway, regardless of what trait is being talked about, for the relationship to be stable in the long term. Over a period of what, 50-70 years, it will be a living hell to tolerate someone for that long, if the matter to be tolerated is significant enough to be an annoyance at the early stage of a relationship. People naturally always seem more perfect than they are during the early days, partly because your affection for them temporarily blinds you to some of their negative traits, and partially because people are already on their best behaviour when together with someone they like.

Just like how someone who is completely unattractive to you when you're dead drunk will never possibly be attractive to you when you're sober, as a manner of speaking.

If there's anything I learnt about breakups, it's that anything that annoys you at the start of a relationship will inevitably come back to bite you in the arse, and this time, it carries lethal poison.


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11 Oct 2011, 7:01 am

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Off topic, is your avatar an optical illusion? I think the middle section is an eye, but I keep seeing it as a mouth. The white part is teeth (the tongue is green), and the character is screaming. Does anyone else see it that way?



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11 Oct 2011, 7:38 am

I improved drastically with age so far.

For one thing, there was this natural improvement at some points in my life that took the form of huge developmental leaps.

And then, ever since my diagnoses, there is this ongoing and steady improvement because of therapy (=learning about people and learning how to improve communication) and because of knowing what's different about me.


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11 Oct 2011, 8:24 am

Definately better for me.


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11 Oct 2011, 8:31 am

trappedinhell wrote:
Twilightflame wrote:
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Off topic, is your avatar an optical illusion? I think the middle section is an eye, but I keep seeing it as a mouth. The white part is teeth (the tongue is green), and the character is screaming. Does anyone else see it that way?


It was not intended to be, and honestly I can't see a screaming character no matter how hard I try. Your visual perception is probably superior to mine.

P.S. I can't see Marilyn Monroe's face in that Marilyn Monroe-Einstein optical illusion either. Though that one was definitely intended to be an illusion.


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11 Oct 2011, 8:38 am

I feel like I've improved in many areas, but adolescence has brought on a completely new set of difficulties. Seeing that I got over those "childhood" difficulties, I think the ones I'm experiencing now will probably be overcome in the next 5 or so years. I think new problems pop up as you get older, so that may be why some people think that. From what I've heard and read about adults with AS and more basic social skills, though... it seems like they get better. They may never be as good at socializing as their NT peers, but they make improvements. I know that I've made tons of improvements social skills-wise and I'm just nearly-16.



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11 Oct 2011, 9:07 am

Twilightflame wrote:
trappedinhell wrote:
Twilightflame wrote:
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Off topic, is your avatar an optical illusion? I think the middle section is an eye, but I keep seeing it as a mouth. The white part is teeth (the tongue is green), and the character is screaming. Does anyone else see it that way?


It was not intended to be, and honestly I can't see a screaming character no matter how hard I try. Your visual perception is probably superior to mine.

P.S. I can't see Marilyn Monroe's face in that Marilyn Monroe-Einstein optical illusion either. Though that one was definitely intended to be an illusion.


It's probably just me. :) Whenever I read books I see something completely different to what others see as well. I've outlined the details and highlighted the ghosts. She seems to be sliding down a steep green slope as well, but that was harder to show.
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11 Oct 2011, 9:09 am

I know that in my teenage years, my status was horrible all around. I've grown in wisdom and delicacy since then, and am glad for it.



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11 Oct 2011, 9:15 am

trappedinhell wrote:
Twilightflame wrote:
trappedinhell wrote:
Twilightflame wrote:
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Off topic, is your avatar an optical illusion? I think the middle section is an eye, but I keep seeing it as a mouth. The white part is teeth (the tongue is green), and the character is screaming. Does anyone else see it that way?


It was not intended to be, and honestly I can't see a screaming character no matter how hard I try. Your visual perception is probably superior to mine.

P.S. I can't see Marilyn Monroe's face in that Marilyn Monroe-Einstein optical illusion either. Though that one was definitely intended to be an illusion.


It's probably just me. :) Whenever I read books I see something completely different to what others see as well. I've outlined the details and highlighted the ghosts. She seems to be sliding down a steep green slope as well, but that was harder to show.
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I see it now. And now I can't notice anything else.



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11 Oct 2011, 3:56 pm

i agree about growing in delicacy. i am sure my emotions have started to become more clear to others over the years. As people no longer seem to think that i am insensitive, and i can convey myself more with a simple facial expression than as a kid. Also ive started to feel like its not such a big deal for people to have an idea whats going on in my head or "my world"



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11 Oct 2011, 4:03 pm

in my case it sure does seem like it



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11 Oct 2011, 4:07 pm

Anyone can get worse with age, but better with other things. It's called changing. You're not really getting worse, you're just changing all the time. Nobody stays the same from when they are 1 to when they're 91.

I feel I've gotten more better with making friends as I've gotten older, but my anxiety level is risen right up since I was about 19. Now it's reached a point where it's become quite disabling. But maybe that's because of too much self-awareness, which can, in a way, be an improvement, because it might be my way of trying to fit in with NTs, even though being anxious isn't exactly what anyone would ask for.

It's such a complex thing really.


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11 Oct 2011, 4:57 pm

It really is a complex thing. I know that my case is a hundred times more mild than others too. Makes me feel bad for them, as i feel disabled by the self awareness most of the time myself. I call it dwelling in my own head. That's how i explain it to friends that seem "normal". I tell them, "sorry, I've checked out, you can find me inside my own mind, but its a silly place, i don't recommend goin there."