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ClassicAutism89
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14 Nov 2011, 2:32 pm

It is hard for some people in the spectrum to learn to have efficient communications skills necessary for the world today. When I was at the casino there was this girl at star bucks who I thought was really awesome. She was a chit-chit social butterfly and we just kept on talking. I kept really good eye contact since I know its important and was really hard to keep my eyes off her anyways. I left and gave my mom her coffee and found an excise to go back and give her my number..then someone else was there and I got nervous and never gave her my number. If she was by herself I would of done it certainly.

I just wanted to be friends with her, nothing more then that since I have a girlfriend already. We had a lot in common. This was a rare occurrence though, I haven't had that deep of a conversation with someone for quiet some time now. In college when I tried one class then left right in the mid-semester because I thought the professor was horrible. During that time though I tried making some friends, it was really hard since it was class and they where talking to other people ect..I think it just frustrates me more then anything else.

I just think autistic people just need training and more importantly experience and force themselves out of there comfort zones to try and socialize. Even though it may feel like you might as well put all about your personal life in a major news paper or tell everyone how you take showers on CNN prime time national TV. Although take it with a grain of salt since I can't hardly do that myself.



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14 Nov 2011, 3:07 pm

Neutotypicals make smalltalk. Aspies make weapons.


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14 Nov 2011, 3:22 pm

ClassicAutism89 wrote:
It is hard for some people in the spectrum to learn to have efficient communications skills necessary for the world today. When I was at the casino there was this girl at star bucks who I thought was really awesome. She was a chit-chit social butterfly and we just kept on talking. I kept really good eye contact since I know its important and was really hard to keep my eyes off her anyways. I left and gave my mom her coffee and found an excise to go back and give her my number..then someone else was there and I got nervous and never gave her my number. If she was by herself I would of done it certainly.

I just wanted to be friends with her, nothing more then that since I have a girlfriend already. We had a lot in common. This was a rare occurrence though, I haven't had that deep of a conversation with someone for quiet some time now. In college when I tried one class then left right in the mid-semester because I thought the professor was horrible. During that time though I tried making some friends, it was really hard since it was class and they where talking to other people ect..I think it just frustrates me more then anything else.

I just think autistic people just need training and more importantly experience and force themselves out of there comfort zones to try and socialize. Even though it may feel like you might as well put all about your personal life in a major news paper or tell everyone how you take showers on CNN prime time national TV. Although take it with a grain of salt since I can't hardly do that myself.


Well, yes and no. The problem I had was, I'm not some basement dwelling loser who never does anything ever. Probably if you were to just glance at me in public, Aspergers would be the last thing you'd think. Many people on this board would probably think I was a dreaded NT, by the way I dress, and the fact that for a short time, I can communicate quite well and effectively. However, the problem is, when people become friends with me, that's sorta when my true colors show, and my "Aspie"ness comes into play. My problem with socializing is, I'm basically ambiverted. I go through periods seemingly at random of introversion and extroversion. That, and basically, what happens is with people, I make a good initial impression, but then as I people get to know me, they think I'm weird. So, it's not lack of initial skills, I'll talk to people in public all the time and be really outgoing and whatever, but once they get to know me, yeah...

So basically, I've learned enough from experience to know that. Just the problem is, I'm terribly odd and though I cover it up very well with preppy clothes, hygiene, etc, in public, once people start knowing me better, it all shows. It's the same with relationships, I could probably do really well if I just wanted to one night stand a bunch of different girls, but having one consistently love me for who I am, yeah...



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14 Nov 2011, 3:32 pm

yes, I'm the opposite to that, I make a really bad first impression but as I go along I kind of accumulate people without really trying. however I'm a bit of a "rolling stone" and you know what they say.



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14 Nov 2011, 11:27 pm

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Ok, now I'm confused... WHAT Neanderthal Aspie theory?

As for prehistory... I disagree. Prehistoric humans depended so much on each other. You can be loner today if you want and still survive somehow. Not in prehistory. (I'm not making this up; I'm an archaeologist and I know how people lived in prehistory. You couldn't do anything without the cooperation with others). Now, maybe in those days people felt connected to everyone in the group, regardless of his social skills, so maybe your awkwardness wouldn't ostracize you the way it does today. But you depended on others more than you depend on them today.


http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

It seems like neanderthals did have smaller groups, as they were supposedly stuck in caves, and their socializing and family structure seemed to differ from others. It is interesting how a lot of people who are autistic are fascinated with caves. Maybe there is some truth to this theory since people with european descent are supposedly part neanderthal?


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15 Nov 2011, 12:48 pm

I admit I have been fascinated with caves. But the ones I tend to be the most fascinated with are major cave systems like the Mammoth Cave System. I find the complex labyrinth of passages and connection points to other caves to be the major fascination for me. When I get really fascinated with Schoolhouse Cave in West Virginia, I began thinking about other caves in the vicinity like Hellhole that it could be connected with. I would look at maps of the region and try to figure out drainage patterns of the waters and how they could yield clues to possible connections.


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15 Nov 2011, 5:08 pm

Ria1989 wrote:
http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

It seems like neanderthals did have smaller groups, as they were supposedly stuck in caves, and their socializing and family structure seemed to differ from others. It is interesting how a lot of people who are autistic are fascinated with caves. Maybe there is some truth to this theory since people with european descent are supposedly part neanderthal?



I find this theory lacking, because Autism is present in all the cultures and countries, including the African ones - and certain groups of African population don't have any Neanderthal admixture. If Autism was virtually unknown with these African populations, then maybe... But as far as I know, that's not the case. Or am I missing something?

Also, the way Neanderthals lived was complex. Humans, Neanderthals or not, didn't really live in caves that much, not if they could find a better place to live. The only reason we have so many skeletal remains in caves is because the remains are better persevered in those environments.

Plus, let's not forget about the cave art: that was done by Homo Sapiens Sapiens. It looks like HSS liked caves, too.



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15 Nov 2011, 8:29 pm

deconstruction wrote:
Ria1989 wrote:
http://www.rdos.net/eng/asperger.htm

It seems like neanderthals did have smaller groups, as they were supposedly stuck in caves, and their socializing and family structure seemed to differ from others. It is interesting how a lot of people who are autistic are fascinated with caves. Maybe there is some truth to this theory since people with european descent are supposedly part neanderthal?



I find this theory lacking, because Autism is present in all the cultures and countries, including the African ones - and certain groups of African population don't have any Neanderthal admixture. If Autism was virtually unknown with these African populations, then maybe... But as far as I know, that's not the case. Or am I missing something?

Also, the way Neanderthals lived was complex. Humans, Neanderthals or not, didn't really live in caves that much, not if they could find a better place to live. The only reason we have so many skeletal remains in caves is because the remains are better persevered in those environments.

Plus, let's not forget about the cave art: that was done by Homo Sapiens Sapiens. It looks like HSS liked caves, too.


Yeah, there's definitely too many holes . Every theory that tries to explain the origin of autism doesn't work, otherwise we would all have peace of mind. For all we know we could actually be from another planet that tried to clone and recreate humans in their laboratory. Maybe we're here as spies for them and we don't even know it. That's how ludicrous all theories about us sound. Maybe it is okay to have some fun with them and let our imagination and educated guesses wander until we know for certain.


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15 Nov 2011, 8:51 pm

I used to believe people with Autism and, well, myself ARE from another planet.



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16 Nov 2011, 9:03 am

deconstruction wrote:
I used to believe people with Autism and, well, myself ARE from another planet.


It does seem more plausible than the theories out there. It could explain our sensory issues. Maybe everything was peaceful, tranquil, and nurturing on our previous planet, which would explain the culture shock of this planet: noisy, smelly, and borderline evil. :)


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