Why are you guys picking on Green89tom?

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17 Nov 2011, 12:29 pm

I may have been a bit sarcastic in one of his topics but I never offended him. When someone posts how others here don't sound like Aspies, that doesn't seem very nice.

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17 Nov 2011, 12:34 pm

swbluto wrote:

His threads seem to be very sensible.

The basic underlying premise to his posts are...

"Autism is a problem and I want it to be cured."

What's wrong with that? You guys are blind if you think that autism doesn't affect your ability to get along with others and affect your ability to achieve various goals that are IMPORTANT in life, such as with careers and relationships. You guys are seriously living in LA LA land if you believe "everything is alright.". :roll:

Well maybe part of it is there is not a cure, and to many of us its more important we learn to cope with our existing problems and that society gets off its high horse and realizes not everyone is going to fit in a little box and quit trying to shove us in the box. At least for me I don't think there is any way to cure the person I am even if I did not have AS I would still be me just without it no cure for that.

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17 Nov 2011, 12:52 pm

While I don't rule out the fact that he could be legitimately have AS, it seems to many of those involved in the threads (myself included) that he is actually calling out on us. I treat him like I usually treat any WP user here, and I posted as usual. Now, when I felt that the issue was escalating, I made attempts to tone the situation down, by injecting humor into the issue (notice the tip cups I posted on one of his topics).

As I've said in one of my replies to this topic, his take on highly sensitive issues are something that can definitely earn the ire of many of the WP members, and quite frankly, his statements were actually offensive. Troll or not, I don't believe Wrong Planet is the right arena to advocate cure for autism, and apparently he did just that.

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17 Nov 2011, 12:58 pm

theimperiousdork wrote:

Yeah, that fish in the tip jar was a bit funny.

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17 Nov 2011, 2:25 pm

If anyone wants to do the homework to get a more scientific grasp on troll determination, here is a research paper on the subject to enlighten you:

http://istifhane.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/trollingincmc.pdf

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17 Nov 2011, 2:31 pm

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postx175972-0-0.html

Here's his first thread/post, I mean he's probably wrong, but there's nothing I think inherently trolling about his first post.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postx176130-0-0.html
Another post by him. In one other post, he says "maybe we should just kill all autistic babies." So it's possible he's a troll, but considering he's discussing his personal life a bit in that thread, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4090134 ... t=#4090134

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4090151 ... t=#4090151

This I think proves he's a real person. He just has different views than us and is probably more low functioning. So, we should feel happy with ourselves knowing that this time, WE were the dreaded NTs oppressing people different from us. Even if, the guy is/was a troll, we've just proved that "Aspies" are not any more loving, kind, or really nicer in anyway compared to our "NT" counterparts, and that put together we have a groupthink mentality too. May God have mercy on us all.

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17 Nov 2011, 2:47 pm

1000Knives wrote:

we've just proved that "Aspies" are not any more loving, kind, or really nicer in anyway compared to our "NT" counterparts, and that put together we have a groupthink mentality too. May God have mercy on us all.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I was suspecting that he was probably intellectually or verbally lower functioning than the norm (It could just be a matter of a foreigner learning the english language), and so people gave him much less slack because of those "inferior differences" and started picking on him, much like NTs give aspies much less slack because of their "inferior differences".

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17 Nov 2011, 2:59 pm

So chaps here are mistaking "idiocy" for "trolling".

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17 Nov 2011, 3:07 pm

Phonic wrote:

So chaps here are mistaking "idiocy" for "trolling".

So if that is the case, I would take it as a compliment then if I were him. But honestly if I were in that position, I would probably post more threads just to piss them off because I wouldn't take crap from people.

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17 Nov 2011, 3:19 pm

I'm slightly insulted that people seem to think that "lower functioning" means "offensive" and "rude" and whatnot. Autism should never, ever be used as an excuse to intentionally piss people off or say things about killing babies. Just, no.

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17 Nov 2011, 3:27 pm

I hope I haven't offended anyone.

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17 Nov 2011, 3:56 pm

SuperTrouper wrote:

Agreed.

Wrongplanet.net is signaled out online as a fun site to go to to "troll aspies" so...yeah, I saw it.

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17 Nov 2011, 4:58 pm

SuperTrouper wrote:

I don't think that is the point. I think the point is some people are so low functioning in some areas such as social skills, they come off as rude and offensive and don't mean to be because their social skills are that bad and so is their TOMs so they can't predict how they might come off as or how people might perceive their posts or how it might make them feel.

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17 Nov 2011, 5:04 pm

I just disagreed with him. I don't remember picking on him. If anything, he seemed to be picking on us.

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17 Nov 2011, 5:10 pm

SuperTrouper wrote:

Yeah, you're right.

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17 Nov 2011, 5:12 pm

League_Girl wrote:

SuperTrouper wrote:

I agree with you. I still don't think things like baby killing fall into this category. I think that's just cruel and uncalled for, not a symptom of Asperger's.

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