Board index › General Discussion › General Autism Discussion

Is life unfair?

Page 2 of 2 [ 31 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Previous topic | Next topic

MrXxx
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 May 2010
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,760
Location: New England

17 Nov 2011, 11:47 am

JohnyJohn wrote:
What about the civilized society thing?


"Nobody's perfect."

Societies can only be as civilized as the people in them. The people in them can only be as civilized as they learned how. They can only know what they've learned. Anything they haven't learned well, they won't do well at. Very few have learned anything accurate about Autism.

No society is perfect. There are always some for whom fairness is an alien concept.


_________________
I'm not likely to be around much longer. As before when I first signed up here years ago, I'm finding that after a long hiatus, and after only a few days back on here, I'm spending way too much time here again already. So I'm requesting my account be locked, banned or whatever. It's just time. Until then, well, I dunno...


JohnyJohn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 475

17 Nov 2011, 11:47 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
Life is unfair from time to time to everybody, on the spectrum or not. Fairness is important to me, and to many Aspies, so maybe we notice it more. You can walk up to any man on the street and ask them to list the unfair things that have happened in thier life and I promise you that you will get a pretty decent size list. Some people, mainly NT's have a better ability to brush it off and roll with the punches. I obsess over unfair treatment and want to expose it, but that's really just too much trouble, and people wouldn't be overly concerned anyway, so I don't.

As for being pro choice, I'm pro choice. At least up to the age of viability. The baby grows inside the woman's body, so she should have a right to abort if she chooses to. I do not like the idea of abortion because of fetal defect, unless it's anacephaly which is where only the brain stem forms and the baby does not have an actual brain and can never live very long or have any quality of life, but I am also against legislation mandating what reasons the woman can abort for. I do believe that if a woman chooses to abort for reasons of fetal defect that she should be required to talk to an expert in the field of whatever the defect is, because many people have misconceptions about them. She should be able to make an informed decision.

Frances


Who talked about abortion?Anyway the woman has the power,not the right.The irony is who knows the baby may be in the future pro -choice too.Also only atheists support abortion,Christians may abort(even though it is the second biggest sin after denial of faith)but at least they repent and know that they did wrong.The baby is not her property.



OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

17 Nov 2011, 12:29 pm

RebelCockney mentioned abortion. Saying that some people wanted to abort babies with autism. I was responding to that. I'm not an Athiest and I support the right to abortion. It is a right because it is legislated as a right. It should be a right up to the age of viability because the baby is in the woman's body and if something/someone is inside your body, you have a right to have it taken out if you do not want it there.

I do not think abortion is the right thing to do, but logically it must be available for those who feel they need it. Everyone is not in a situation where they can have a baby without it completely ruining their life.

I was responding to RebelCockneys remark about some people being pro choice and wanting to abort all fetuses with autism.

And ironically, abortion and life being unfair are fairly similar from either side of the coin.

Frances



SyphonFilter
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Feb 2011
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,161
Location: The intersection of Inkopolis’ Plaza & Square where the Turf Wars lie.

17 Nov 2011, 12:32 pm

Which question(s) are you asking? If life in general is unfair, or if Aspies are being treated unfairly, or both?



Joe90
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 26,492
Location: UK

17 Nov 2011, 12:35 pm

How come NTs are allowed to be unfair to people who are different to them (ie Aspies), but Aspies aren't allowed to be unfair to people who are different to them (ie NTs)?


_________________
Female


JohnyJohn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 475

17 Nov 2011, 12:36 pm

Both.

What are you?A pagan?



OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

17 Nov 2011, 12:42 pm

What business is it of yours what religion I am? How could it possibly benefit you in the least to know anything at all about my personal religious beliefs? Would it benefit you, or would it simply allow you to show disdain for me or catagorize me into some preconceived incorrect assumption?

Frances



JohnyJohn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 475

17 Nov 2011, 12:43 pm

Don't answer then.



SyphonFilter
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Feb 2011
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,161
Location: The intersection of Inkopolis’ Plaza & Square where the Turf Wars lie.

17 Nov 2011, 12:47 pm

JohnyJohn wrote:
Both.

What are you?A pagan?
Nah, I'm not pagan. To answer your questions, yes, life is at times unfair. Moreover, sometimes Aspies can be treated unfairly just like anyone else can be treated unfairly.



JohnyJohn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 475

17 Nov 2011, 12:49 pm

Pagan goes to oliveoil.



SyphonFilter
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Feb 2011
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,161
Location: The intersection of Inkopolis’ Plaza & Square where the Turf Wars lie.

17 Nov 2011, 12:53 pm

JohnyJohn wrote:
Pagan goes to oliveoil.
Oh, I just wasn't sure who you were asking, is all.



OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

17 Nov 2011, 1:00 pm

If you notice, I never said I wasn't Christian either. I also never said I wasn't Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, or Buddhist. I simply said I wasn't an Athiest.

If you haven't heard, there are many pro choice Christians. You should possibly Google.

I try not to assume anything about any religious group. You might want to give that a try sometimes instead of getting upset and assuming personal things about someone simply because they don't agree with you.

"I am not an Athiest" in no way translates to "I am a Pagan". If there is a way that it does, please explain how.

Frances.



JohnyJohn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 475

17 Nov 2011, 1:07 pm

Yeah,heretics.Only one True Christianity exists with it's dogmas and values.What does pro choice christian means?Just bull....Also there are people who are ecumenists does that make them right?



OliveOilMom
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Age: 60
Gender: Female
Posts: 11,447
Location: About 50 miles past the middle of nowhere

17 Nov 2011, 1:10 pm

Well, you obviously have strong feelings and opinions on matters of religion, and that's perfectly fine. We all have that right. I however, am done with this discussion with you, because I will not debate an issue based on religion, I will debate an issue based only on facts and logic.

And yes, life is still unfair, to everyone from time to time. We just tend to notice it more, I think.

Frances



JohnyJohn
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2011
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 475

17 Nov 2011, 1:12 pm

Well,God must be the center of life for those who say they believe in Him and not material things.