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04 Oct 2006, 4:57 pm

Fraya wrote:
Eh problem with that theory is that the government cant even understand how ASDs work much less have enough technical knowledge of genetics to have engineered it intentionally.


Thats what they tell you.. we all know people lie all the time



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04 Oct 2006, 5:03 pm

Fraya wrote:
Eh problem with that theory is that the government cant even understand how ASDs work much less have enough technical knowledge of genetics to have engineered it intentionally.


Think about it Fraya it is supposed to be (according to Baron Cohen) extreme male wiring which would make sense in battle, no empathy e.t.c.

Trying to engineer that extra few percentages could pay off in battle, not only that the untold traits are honesty, loyalty, obedience to peers, e.t.c. which is perfect in obeying orders and forming strong loyalty to people, organisations, e.t.c. Ideal for accepting orders.



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04 Oct 2006, 5:08 pm

Yeah but the tendency to question authority and be overloaded by sensory input isnt good for field combat.

Black ops maybe but for footsoldiers you wouldnt want an aspie.

Besides the whole "extreme male brain" thing is a bunch of tripe from people trying to oversimplify something they dont understand.


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04 Oct 2006, 5:22 pm

Fraya wrote:
Yeah but the tendency to question authority and be overloaded by sensory input isnt good for field combat.

Black ops maybe but for footsoldiers you wouldnt want an aspie.

Besides the whole "extreme male brain" thing is a bunch of tripe from people trying to oversimplify something they dont understand.


Do not forget they could have been experimenting with genetics the experiment could have been abandoned.

I think the only person to come out with male brain wiring is Baron - Cohen.

What about Asperger's himself identify traits in 1 class.



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04 Oct 2006, 5:28 pm

In any case back to the physical abnormalities.. am I the only one whos fallen off 2nd story rooftops, down stairs, been hit with 2x4s, baseball bats, etc.. and yet never had a broken bone?


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04 Oct 2006, 5:45 pm

Silent, re: your point on consumption of intoxicants... noticed that one myself.
Always been able to consume large quantities of alcohol with a disproportianately small aftermath.
Like the time I drained a liter bottle of Glenfiddich, wound up half-naked in someones' yard with an inch of snow on me, went into my friends house, took a shower and went to work.
Not really a big fan of booze anymore tho.

edit: for those who've said they have a fairly high tolerance for booze, can you do me a favor and pop in your height/weight? I'm just curious.
Mine (at the time I was drinking) 6 foot, 190lbs.



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04 Oct 2006, 6:03 pm

When I was drinking...5'3' 110.....I drank as much as I could as fast as I could and preferred hard liquor to beer.I would intentionally not eat before I went out to drink.I would feel the effects of one sip of vodka or 1/2 beer,within a short period of time.I did "black out" frequently,as was my intention....self anialization.The only usually part was I never through up and only passed out a few times while my friends would be dropping like flies.It was pretty lonely at times.

I have heard a lot of people here with AS saying that they have a very low tolerance to medication.So,I dont know if your theory holds.I know that I had more extreme results when taking less shrooms,LSD,Robotuissen...then my fellow drug abusers.(Usually about half their dose and a lot more visual halucinations)


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04 Oct 2006, 6:11 pm

5'2" 95 pounds

I also prefer hard liquor in mixed drinks cant stand beer.


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04 Oct 2006, 7:37 pm

I personally have a very, very low tolerance for most medications. When I need to shop for over-the-counter medications, I typically buy children's medications and take child-size doses.

For prescription drugs, I can get pretty severe side effects from the smallest dose manufactured (usually 1/4 or less the normal dose).

Never done illicit drugs, so I couldn't tell you on that.



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04 Oct 2006, 7:44 pm

Fraya wrote:
In any case back to the physical abnormalities.. am I the only one whos fallen off 2nd story rooftops, down stairs, been hit with 2x4s, baseball bats, etc.. and yet never had a broken bone?


Except for the rooftop, nope. I've fallen down stairs and been hit with baseball bats, etc and only had bruises. My NT brother broke his arm as a kid, yet I've never had anything more severe than a sprained ankle.


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04 Oct 2006, 8:39 pm

I don't think we qualify as a new species because we can still reproduce with NTs and produce fertile offspring.

The closest thing I can think of that might describe the relationship between us and NTs is that we're a different "breed" of human... the difference between a Siamese and a Persian... They can still have kittens; they're still the same size, same intelligence (about) but they're definitely, recognizably, different--both in temperament and physical nature.

As for the different races of human being--black, white, Asian, whatever--there are enough differences there for classification; but they seem to be primarily physical and cultural-- mentally, the races are nowhere near as different as Aspie and NT. There are no two races that have such drastically different ways of thinking and relating to the world as, for example, me and my NT sister... and my sister and I were raised together, giving us the same cultural background--something different races don't have unless someone's adopted.

A black person and a white person are maybe about as different as a calico and a tabby cat--different coat patterns, maybe slightly different dispositions (calicos are said to be more assertive than tabbies)--but, at the bottom of it, both are just plain cats, one as good as the other (and both lovely, if you want my opinion, though I have more experience with tabbies).

But... when you get to Persian and Siamese... you get the body shape difference, the temperament differences, the coat, the energy level, the level of sociability, assertiveness, and the way they vocalize... That's the Aspie/NT barrier.

Different species? Nope. We're nowhere near that different from NTs. That'd be like saying we're bobcats and they're pumas or something... But whatever the human equivalent of "breed" is, that's us.


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04 Oct 2006, 9:12 pm

Fraya wrote:
In any case back to the physical abnormalities.. am I the only one whos fallen off 2nd story rooftops, down stairs, been hit with 2x4s, baseball bats, etc.. and yet never had a broken bone?


Nope, same here. I've broken 1 bone in my entire life and that was a hairline fracture of the navicular bone in the wrist. I've fallen from climbing the underside of a flight of stairs without so much as a fractured skull.
Also don't tend to get sick very often, come to think of it. About once every other year I get a really bad cold or flu; usually after the wife n kid have already had it.



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04 Oct 2006, 9:29 pm

diseased wrote:
Fraya wrote:
In any case back to the physical abnormalities.. am I the only one whos fallen off 2nd story rooftops, down stairs, been hit with 2x4s, baseball bats, etc.. and yet never had a broken bone?


Nope, same here. I've broken 1 bone in my entire life and that was a hairline fracture of the navicular bone in the wrist. I've fallen from climbing the underside of a flight of stairs without so much as a fractured skull.
Also don't tend to get sick very often, come to think of it. About once every other year I get a really bad cold or flu; usually after the wife n kid have already had it.


I've never broken a bone before, even though a lot of things have happened that should have broken or cracked some bones. I'm always dropping really heavy things on my feet and it hardly leaves a bruise. I accidentally hit someone's really sharp tooth with my elbow and it hardly left a scratch. I got stabbed in the arm with a nail and didn't bleed at all. I also heal faster than most people I know. And I'm hardly ever sick. Maybe AS does have something to do with this.


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04 Oct 2006, 9:47 pm

Be kinda cool if we all turned out to be prototypes for Wolverine.
(sorry... watched X-Men 3 last night)



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04 Oct 2006, 10:10 pm

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Be kinda cool if we all turned out to be prototypes for Wolverine.
(sorry... watched X-Men 3 last night)


Or even better if we were prototypes for Sephiroth. He doesn't heal really fast but it doesn't matter because he's known for never being injured no matter what you do to him.


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05 Oct 2006, 12:57 am

I have only broken my nose twice,once I dont remember but they told me it had been broken when I broke it the second time (jumping off a building and landing in a net...my knee hit my nose,ouch)I was knocked off my bike when a motor cycle ran into me and I got up without a scratch but my wrist hurt a little.I use to climb the jungle gym,trees a lot as a kid....lots of scratches and bruises from running into stuff....but nothing else broken.

I use to get bad sinus infections and broncitus growing up....but now I rarely get sick even when exposed to co-workers and clients who are all sick....but,I do have IBS and low thyroid...but for a 42 year old smoker,ex alcoholic....I am pretty healthy,but not of the "super hero" variety...lol


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