Abused by those with BPD

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I wouldn't call it a mental illness. It seems more like a defence mechanism. Again, some bpds have been the sanest people I've known. They aren't part of the unthinking NT hierarchy. That gets a lot of respect from me.

Well its a Personality Disorder.........and usually there is no cure for personality disorders, so in that sense it's not a mental illness.

Who says it's a personality disorder? People trying to keep their own personalities unlabelled, that's who. Transparent power game.

Though I don't want to give too many personal details, I will say that I've had A LOT of experience dealing with people with BPD. It can be extremely traumatizing.

Aspies have a very hard time walking on the eggshells eggshells of the NT world. BPD is difficult on a completely different level. There are eggshells everywhere! You can't avoid stepping on them.

I suffered a lot of heartache and pretty severe abuse. To this day it is not discussed. This is hardest part. All my traumatic experiences are denied and my feelings are invalidated. Everyone else just works really hard to avoid the eggshells and get mad at me when I step on them.

This is a very disturbing diagnosis, but we must remember that those with BPD did not ask to have this disorder.

The DSM...

Yes, that was my point.

I don't really think the DSM is about power, its about having a book with all the mental disorders and descriptions of them.....so if someone is experiancing distress fromt their symptoms they can get help. Not saying i trust the entire psychology feild but not everyone involved is a power hungry jerk just wanting to convince people they're ill to control them.

I'm sure most of them don't do it deliberately.

Anyone can be cured with love. That's literally all it takes. Not 'medicine'. Buying into a system that says you need pills to make you better makes you a victim and means you'll never be totally well.

I agree.

Schizophrenia is a mental illness and is incurable. It's debatable as to ADHD and autism, but they're often characterized as mental illnesses and are not curable. A lot of conditions aren't curable that are not axis 2, so that doesn't really make sense.

Also, BPD does have effective treatments (DBT and medication can both be used to good effect).



This is not really meaningful, and pills can do amazing things for some people, and taking them doesn't make anyone a victim.

I know there's a school of thought that rejects medications, but without medications, I am actually measurably less functional.

I wish I could truly convey the respect and such that I really feel right now. I have no clue really what to do about folks with BPD. Theoretically my daughter has BPD (the eldest) but I suspect it may be a misdiagnosis or at least very, very mild. But....why are you letting the people in your life do this to you?

You can't change or help them by giving and giving and giving. That only enables them and exhausts you. I have been there but in another way. I have a friend who is a heroin addict. She was clean when I first met her, but relapsed. Then the manipulation began. I thought I could help her. She said it was a mistake and she wanted to get off the dope. She said she needed money for copayments for suboxone. She said she was out of money and her boys who I love dearly are hungry. Note: I am on a very fixed income. Her husband made 93K a year. So I gave until I came to my senses. No. The only way to actually help is to say no.

So, my realization. The capacity to love is a wondrous thing. But love isn't always nice and kind. Sometimes love is a b*tch who kicks butt. It really is ok to set boundaries.

This was what I had to be told in regards to my ex: unconditional love doesn't mean unconditional giving.

Not everyone in the psychology field things pills are the answer.....and also I have to say there are people who love me, but that has not cured anything that's wrong with me. Not that I am looking for any cures as I feel its a waste of time. But yes it has been proven that being in a more supportive environment can reduce unpleasent symptoms.

But yeah I think sometimes medications can help some people.......just not always the ones they prescribe. In my case there's a certain herb that makes me feel better and sometimes I do need it to feel better, but i don't feel it makes me a victim because its not forced on me its my choice.

It is. If you don't understand it I can explain at more length, but ultimately it's a fundamental truth and you either know it from experience (and reflection) or you don't.

Medication makes you a victim because it's a comforting lie. If you accept a lie, you're a victim. If you accept yourself and your connection to the real world, you get healed.

I don't quite see that....I mean it depends on the medication and how its being used. It's common knowledget that drugs can reduce symptoms of various things physical things and psychological things. I see nothing wrong with one wanting to reduce their symptoms.

Symptoms are there for a reason. Treating symptoms does nothing to get you back into alignment.