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07 Jan 2012, 2:37 pm

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I agree with much of what you say. It is wrong of NTs to presume superiority. There are many ways that Aspies are superior to NTs just as there are many ways that NTs are superior to Aspies. It may be easier being NT, but only because society is mostly NT- in a mostly Aspie society/species, then NTs would struggle because they wouldn't be able to hear enough or couldn't imagine or whatever. However, it is equally wrong of us to try and claim outright superiority without claiming it. We certainly aren't "the next evolution", because evolution is not directional, and in any case for humanity to evolve to be primarily Aspie then being an Aspie would need to have some advantage for survival or reproduction. Currently it doesn't.

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if Darth Vader and Voldermort got into a fight, who would win?

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07 Jan 2012, 3:49 pm

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"Only, if they looked deeper they might realize there is something wrong with THEM, there is something wrong with society, and nuerotypicals."

I agree, society has a few screws loose. That still doesn't make us superior.

If someone were to approach me speaking about creating a nation of autistics only, with their little pamplet and advised me to join their team...I'd have to rip up the paper and scold the person for attempting to lure me into a cult.

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07 Jan 2012, 4:23 pm

thread makes me want to > :wall:

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07 Jan 2012, 4:24 pm

The most important step to being the next step in evolution is having more kids that survive to reproduction age then them. Tell me when this happens, I'm not seeing it right now.

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07 Jan 2012, 4:28 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

If you think you're superior, then prove it.
Go achieve something.
Anyone can sit on the internet whining about how stupid and flawed NTs are.

Done that.

Grew half a finger back.

My father was born in 1882.

At 20 I was crushed in a car accident, only had a few cuts and a cracked rib.

I am a real life X-Man.

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07 Jan 2012, 4:48 pm

Words can not express my hatred for these guys, they really can't. You've all ruined X-Men for me BTW.

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07 Jan 2012, 4:54 pm

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Words can not express my hatred for these guys, they really can't. You've all ruined X-Men for me BTW.

Why so much hate? Chill down, they did mean to offend you, they were just trying to justify their own existence.

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07 Jan 2012, 4:58 pm

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HazelEye wrote:

Words can not express my hatred for these guys, they really can't. You've all ruined X-Men for me BTW.

Why so much hate? Chill down, they did mean to offend you, they were just trying to justify their own existence.

I'm a hateful person by nature.

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07 Jan 2012, 5:07 pm

HazelEye wrote:

Ganondox wrote:

HazelEye wrote:

Words can not express my hatred for these guys, they really can't. You've all ruined X-Men for me BTW.

Why so much hate? Chill down, they did mean to offend you, they were just trying to justify their own existence.

I'm a hateful person by nature.

So how and who has ruined X-Men for you? X-Men is about teen alienation and angst, always has been, but so far as the homo superior stuff is concerned, while Magneto is sometimes portrayed as a villain and sometimes as an antihero, it's overwhelmingly clear that the "good" guys are the X-Men, not whichever band of villains Magneto happens to have around him at the time.

Oh aye, and the OP needs to go away and try to grasp the basics of evolution (hint: no direction, no progress, random, unthinking, unplanned); but as a new-user-immediately-posting-a-contentious-thread they have giant red warning lights flashing above their posts anyhoo.

(And not to apologise, but to explain: I wasn't going to post in this thread simply to say that about the OP, but I can't ask about the X-Men without seeming to gloss over that idiocy unless I say something.)

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07 Jan 2012, 5:10 pm

Ambivalence wrote:

HazelEye wrote:

Ganondox wrote:

HazelEye wrote:

Words can not express my hatred for these guys, they really can't. You've all ruined X-Men for me BTW.

Why so much hate? Chill down, they did mean to offend you, they were just trying to justify their own existence.

I'm a hateful person by nature.

Every time I see a post about this stuff X-Men is ruined, I don't really know why and I don't care.

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07 Jan 2012, 5:15 pm

HazelEye wrote:

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HazelEye wrote:

Ganondox wrote:

HazelEye wrote:

Words can not express my hatred for these guys, they really can't. You've all ruined X-Men for me BTW.

Why so much hate? Chill down, they did mean to offend you, they were just trying to justify their own existence.

I'm a hateful person by nature.

Every time I see a post about this stuff X-Men is ruined, I don't really know why and I don't care.

If you don't care, why bother telling people that they'd ruined X-Men for you?

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07 Jan 2012, 5:16 pm

I don't really know, to be honest I'm wondering why you care about this so much. It was a stupid comment and this conversation is going nowhere. I think we're getting off track...

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07 Jan 2012, 5:19 pm

HazelEye wrote:

I don't really know, to be honest I'm wondering why you care about this so much. It was a stupid comment and this conversation is going nowhere. I think we're getting off track...

And why should we care about staying on track? This tangent is no more inane than the OP.

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07 Jan 2012, 5:21 pm

Ganondox wrote:

HazelEye wrote:

I don't really know, to be honest I'm wondering why you care about this so much. It was a stupid comment and this conversation is going nowhere. I think we're getting off track...

And why should we care about staying on track? This tangent is no more inane than the OP.

I just like to stay on track, no matter how stupid the subject is, though I guess it doesn't really matter. I guess the main thing is when I find out I like the same things as a stereotypical aspie I feel horrible.

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07 Jan 2012, 5:50 pm

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I'm not sure I entirely see your point. You seem to be saying that you and your older brother function pretty well despite a lot of abuse and bullying, but your little brother does not. Did I interpret that correctly?

Consider that there is a large area between the ends of the spectrum, and that you three are all somewhere along that spectrum. You seem to be saying that the amount of abuse/bullying is so much that if it would cause any shift in the spectrum, it should shift all the way. But that seems an untenable position to me, it could just as well have been just enough to shift you, say, a third of the way. And your little brother, being the last, may have gotten more of it because your caretakers were already used to the idea, so they managed to heap on more.

Also, abuse depends on perspective. Stuff like forcing eye contact, forcing hugs, grasping hands of someone stimming, forcing kids to go along to crowded places, seem okay to most, but can be very abusive to some. So it's almost impossible to compare the level you received to that of other people. Especially those who can't communicate very well (i.e. are on the other side of the spectrum).

I apologize for analyzing your situation with what little I know of it, but I saw no other way of making my point.

W...T...F??? LFA kids are BORN that way. There is no time for bullying or bad parenting to have an effect on them! God, these threads are always asinine, but this time the amount of fail is beyond belief! :doh:

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07 Jan 2012, 5:55 pm

I am an X-Men for reasons other than AS...

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