why are are so many aspies murderer?

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It also does say they have been speculated to be diagnosed or misdiagnosed or with another autism condition.


But hardly anyone on that list was a criminal.

But this is a silly question because that is like asking why are so many none ASD murderers. Truth is, they're not. People that kill are in the minority, same as ones who have autism. They didn't kill just because they had autism, they killed because of something else. Autism doesn't cause murder unless you want to say their meltdowns caused it such as Sky Walker for example. He killed his mother from his meltdown by hitting her in the head. But those cases are rare when autism can actually cause someone to murder but it was unintentional when he did it. But if he had the normal intelligence, he maybe wouldn't have done it knowing that blowing someone in the head can actually harm them and possibly cause death so therefore he wouldn't have done it. So someone can say instead it was the mental retardation that did it, not the autism. But if he had normal intelligence and still did it, no one would be saying it was the autism. But yeah it's rare for a mental condition to cause someone to murder.

*sigh* This is the same thing furries/bronies are getting. We're mostly made up of normal people(well...you get the idea) but then someone latches on to one murder or one brony fursuit enthusiast and viola! We're all possible psychopaths! Although I doubt I'll be the first to admit aspies can be a little amoral from time to time, at least in my own case.

Yeah, more NTs commit violent acts than ASD people. Probably more than the majority of schizophrenics, too.
Such an absurd statement.

Matt

My friend, who also has Asperger's, set up an Internet company which sells a game script which he also didn't make. This website has an automatic buying system, and he now uses it to transfer money from hacked bank accounts and credit cards. There is probably a link between antisocial behavior and Asperger's.

The list should also include Lisa Brown who was convicted of her mother's murder in 2009. Brown is diagnosed with Asperger's.

Well I find that the feeling of isolation and being different from the rest of the world takes it toll on you. If you allow your resentment of the rest of the world to accumulate, you may end up lashing out on others.

Don't think of this along the lines of "aspies could become murderers". Think about it like "people who don't fit in will and feel alienated by society could become murderers" which I think is fairly straightforward and almost common sense (and could easily describe a lot of NT murderers).

And of course there are so many other factors at play. You found four examples. That is not a significant enough sample size to create a correlation (even if you could determine with certainty whether those murderers in question have Aspergers). Secondly, even if you can find a reasonable correlation, you can't just assume you have proven that aspies become murderers because you have to account for extra variables.

So basically if anyone tries to bring this up as an attack against aspies, you should destroy them relentlessly in an argument.

I think threads like this probably do more damage than wikipedia lists.

When people look at a wikipedia list they tend to give it a lot less credibility than it deserves and then on top of that they just sort of shrug off what is realistic since WP:N is so strict that its stupid... There are lots of things wrong with wikipedia and everybody knows it.

However someone comes to a place like WP and is browsing around for answers and they see someone arguing that there is reason to be swayed by absolutely biased lists and they might not realize that they are speaking to someone with bias who is sourcing from a biased resource...

luckily... most people are still probably smart enough not to insist that autistic/aspergian/etc people are murderers from this light topic so its all groovy

Every social group has a few murders, four is not a lot, it's just we don't have a lot of famous non-murders up yet. The fact is that the easiest way to become famous is to kill people.

an activity for this forum: change the wikipedia article? thinkl of something better?

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