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24 Jan 2012, 11:40 pm

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When I ask myself what others are trying to achieve there is much uncertainty. The possibility I wrote of would seem unlikely if the person who brought up your autism was overtly rude or aggressive in their other communications, but, I think, not impossible. To be certain of why people do what they do seems impossible, at least for me, but I do consider what motivates others, just not very effectively, in a way that is biased by my own motivations, and handicapped by my lack of social versatility.


This explanation is similar to why I answered what I did.



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24 Jan 2012, 11:45 pm

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I think that laughing with no reason during a converasation is more related to ToM than sense of humor itself. Just listen to people. They laugh at about everything they say, but not too much, as it could be considered weird.

Typical NT conversation:
- hahahaha, herp derp, hahahaha
- yea, hahahaha, durr hurr, hahahaha

where "hurr durr herp derp" is stuff that is not funny at all, even for NTs. Well, not funny to laugh it out loud at least.


Just reading this post set me off on a fit of giggles.

I bet the next time someone talks at me and I can't understand what they are saying, I am going to remember this example of a typical NT conversation and have another giggling fit.



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26 Jan 2012, 12:56 am

Autistics can have excellent sense of humor and theory of mind. Check out Rudy Simone's comedy reel.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7gytZQirw[/youtube]



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26 Jan 2012, 1:29 am

Hmm, not really a fan of her humor (actually I found some of it offensive), but I do appreciate and will probably pass on the example.



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27 Jan 2012, 2:44 am

Passed along. The guy asked why she didn't "look autistic" and I mentioned fronting/mimicking NT behaviors, and he went on to say he didn't think she could possibly be on the spectrum.

He also said when I mentioned that a lot of adults diagnosed with AS don't stim as adults even if they did in childhood, that if some symptoms change over time, then it's "not really autism."

These conversations make me kind of tired. I like the person well enough beyond this.



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27 Jan 2012, 4:25 am

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Passed along. The guy asked why she didn't "look autistic" and I mentioned fronting/mimicking NT behaviors


Pffft she can't even make eye contact with a video camera :P



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27 Jan 2012, 4:28 am

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Verdandi wrote:
Passed along. The guy asked why she didn't "look autistic" and I mentioned fronting/mimicking NT behaviors


Pffft she can't even make eye contact with a video camera :P


I didn't notice, because I didn't look at her eyes.

I've seen her in interviews and such, and read Aspergirls. I'm pretty convinced she's on the spectrum.



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27 Jan 2012, 4:34 am

Verdandi wrote:
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Passed along. The guy asked why she didn't "look autistic" and I mentioned fronting/mimicking NT behaviors


Pffft she can't even make eye contact with a video camera :P


I didn't notice, because I didn't look at her eyes.



What do you have? Like a 54" monitor? In the 3x5 video window on my computer it was hard to miss her eyes.



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27 Jan 2012, 4:57 am

Rascal77s wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
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Passed along. The guy asked why she didn't "look autistic" and I mentioned fronting/mimicking NT behaviors


Pffft she can't even make eye contact with a video camera :P


I didn't notice, because I didn't look at her eyes.



What do you have? Like a 54" monitor? In the 3x5 video window on my computer it was hard to miss her eyes.


No, it's actually 19" or so. I spent most of the video watching her glass. Are we really going to argue over whether or not it's possible to look at one part of the screen with or without seeing another part of the screen?



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27 Jan 2012, 5:05 am

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Are we really going to argue over whether or not it's possible to look at one part of the screen with or without seeing another part of the screen?


Yes we are. Are you as excited about it as I am?*




















* Disclaimer: I'm joking.



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27 Jan 2012, 5:33 am

Rascal77s wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
Are we really going to argue over whether or not it's possible to look at one part of the screen with or without seeing another part of the screen?


Yes we are. Are you as excited about it as I am?*

* Disclaimer: I'm joking.


Haha. :D



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27 Jan 2012, 7:07 am

Sometimes I wonder about this. My dad is suspected Aspie but not diagnosed, just as myself. He very often doesn't get jokes at all, to the extreme that people think he is just making it up. People cannot possibly understand how he cannot get a simple joke.

Myself, on the other hand, I am able to watch humorous tv shows and laugh. However, under intoxication, I have noticed that sense of humor will sometimes disappear entirely and I wonder to myself, "What the hell are people laughing about?" "This isn't funny at all, this is downright offensive."

Much of common humor revolves around attacking people and mocking people. It is easy to laugh at when you can shut your mind off, but if you really really think about it, most of the garbage humor is not funny at all, it is just offensive.

This is why I have a problem when people say, "Can't you take a joke?" I want to scream at them, "Don't you realize what an insensitive jerk you are!"

But customs will always prevail. You cannot stand up against something that is not funny because people will think you are a dud for it.