Is Arguing All the Time an Autistic Trait?

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23 Oct 2006, 3:30 am

I argue a lot. THis is usually how people get to know me.



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23 Oct 2006, 6:13 am

I argue with my family a lot but not with others as I am wary of confrontation, I like debating though, I can get argumentative when I'm irritable, when people can't see they are incorrect!!



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23 Oct 2006, 1:02 pm

fresco wrote:
I argue with my family a lot but not with others as I am wary of confrontation, I like debating though, I can get argumentative when I'm irritable, when people can't see they are incorrect!!


It is funny after reading through the rest of the posts but I didn't realize that I actually avoid alot of confrontation in person or with family members. A few people I know I can safely disagree with but I would much prefer to keep the peace than to try and get my point across. So in that regard I am not very argumentative. However, online is different, perhaps because it is easier to write out your points than arguing verbally.



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23 Oct 2006, 1:17 pm

I argue all the time.. Helps me learn things.. if people didnt take it so personally I'd have more knowledge but eventually arguments end up about me and not the subject at hand..



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23 Oct 2006, 2:44 pm

I notice details and small discrepancies which then make me want an explanation, which can lead to arguing.



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23 Oct 2006, 2:56 pm

diseased wrote:
I don't argue all the time. I clarify finer points that people seem to've overlooked.


Ditto, and this tends to piss other people off. I am then accused of being a 'smartass', which I prefer to being called 'stupid' I have to say.


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23 Oct 2006, 3:10 pm

I tend to argue all the time. I don't do it on purpose it just happens. I always want to know other peoples perspectives and why they see it that way.



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23 Oct 2006, 4:06 pm

Yeah, I argue an awful lot. I believe very passionately in whatever I'm saying, to the extent that I'll go into 'overkill' and get really cruel and nasty sometimes (even though I despise such behaviour in others). I don't like losing, it's true. It concerns me that I am too fussy and volatile, and also that, over time, I am sure that many of my passionate beliefs actually contradict each other. There are days when I'm just looking to find fault with the world, and that's sad.

Sometimes I am really secretive and ambiguous, and then I get annoyed because no-one understands why I say or do things a certain way, even though I haven't really given them a chance! I know I do this but I don't seem to be able to change. I find it hard to explain my feelings and decision-making rationale, and I forget that other people don't weigh things up in their head using the same criterea as I do.

There is a clear distinction to be made between deep-seated beliefs and short-term reactions. My girlfriend held a number of my throwaway comments as gospel truth for over a year and grew to resent me because of them, because she didn't understand their context (I was either stressed, depressed, or joking) and the fact that 95% of the time I felt completely different. I thought the differences were obvious, but they weren't. I tied her up in rules that I didn't even know I'd created. :cry:


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23 Oct 2006, 4:16 pm

Arguing is fun, and a good way to spend your time. I love arguing.


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23 Oct 2006, 4:38 pm

Doesn't say in the diagnostic criteria about being a stubborn know it all w*ker but then we can't all be perfect I guess



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23 Oct 2006, 4:46 pm

KimJ wrote:
My son and I are very argumentive, "contrary" and my husband is not.
I like the art of arguing philosophically.
Also, I think being so literal contributes to always "nitpicking" or asking for more explanation. Some people like saying things as dumb jokes and trivia that they think makes them look smart, but I'll contradict them.
I'm a dictionary-felcher too.

Argumentativeness as a personality trait may be related to the broader personality dimension of disagreeability in the Big Five schema (along with extraversion, neuroticism, conscientiousness, and openness to new ideas); I wouldn't be surprised if it is in part genetically heritable. I bet it pisses a lot of people off that you nitpick and correct any informational or logical mistakes they make. Occasionally, I've debated with people online who use dictionary definitions to support their positions, not realizing that, among experts, a complicated subject may have much more nuance than a dictionary definition can ever permit (if only for space reasons).

For me, I don't always argue just to make someone aware of the truth or correct grievous mistakes. Just often I enjoy argumentation and debate for the sheer fun of it. I will often attempt to defend extreme or ludicrous positions just because they're more fun to defend than a clear and widely held truth.



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23 Oct 2006, 5:50 pm

One-Winged-Angel wrote:
Arguing is fun, and a good way to spend your time. I love arguing.


I'm ADDICTED to arguing i don't go a day without it.

Yeah it probably is a trait of AS.


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23 Oct 2006, 6:50 pm

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My girlfriend calls me her dictionary :P


My bfs says that about me! :D
I get that and Spell Check when he's writing his recipes / menus



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23 Oct 2006, 6:51 pm

Unknown wrote:
Yeah it probably is a trait of AS.


Everyone else who's posted here loves arguing. I think it is. That gives me even more reason to believe I inherited AS from my great grandfather. I never met him, so I wouldn't know if he really had it, but I've been told I'm a lot like him. I've been told that I argue almost as much as he did, and that almost every time he opened his mouth, it was to argue with somebody. His name was Adolph.


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23 Oct 2006, 7:05 pm

Yet ANOTHER reason to believe I have AS!

When I was a kid, people told me I COULDN'T do things I COULD! People told ME they could do things they COULDN'T! People claimed things that were CLEARLY NOT TRUE! People didn't do things they promised, were unethical, or INCOMPETENT! Of course, this led to ARGUING!! !! I was usually RIGHT!

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23 Oct 2006, 7:42 pm

Scintillate wrote:
My girlfriend calls me her dictionary :P


People usually call me a living dictionary.


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