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10 Feb 2012, 3:08 pm

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I experimented with this back in the 80's. Never had much control, but I definitely remember having dreams within my dreams. Hey, its wild, but it happened and I knew the firt one was a dream, but not until alarm rung that the awake "Reality" was also a dream state.
Since I've been taking Lyrica some of my dreams have become less intense, plus not remembering them all that much. In my teens & 20s I lived as much in dreams as real life. Always knew when I was dreaming, well mostly, but recalled EVERYTHING..

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I have dreams within dreams too. I forgot to mention that earlier.



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10 Feb 2012, 3:19 pm

I had one the other day.. I was in a depressive stupour on the sofa and fell asleep, I was aware I was asleep and dreaming, but I was just screaming for someone to wake me up. It was pretty unpleasant. I have had a lot more control, but often just want to wake up when I become aware I am dreaming, this is rarely a pleasant feeling.

I have pretty vivid memorable dreams generally..

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10 Feb 2012, 3:25 pm

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I have dreams within dreams too. I forgot to mention that earlier.


Inception? :lol:



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10 Feb 2012, 3:45 pm

I used to conduct a lot of lucid dreams some time back.

I would do certain things for them to happen frequently, such as MILD, DILD and WILD.

It was a lot of fun, but the lucid part of most of the dreams were quite short before I found myself awake in my bed (no FA). Though, I did have one lucid dream that I didn't have too much control over that kept looping forever, me wanting to wake up. It was a pretty nasty experience being stuck in a dream that kept repeating itself with slight variations, knowing it was a dream.



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10 Feb 2012, 4:06 pm

Most of my dreams are somehow lucid. Being able of fly is very common, although sometimes I don't have full control.
Less frequently I have access to a variety of magic and/or weird technology.
I remember one time that I destroyed a foe's protection and then casted disintegrate :S, clearly inspired by this comic although a did not began with disjunction, since his protection was physical instead of magical... Yes I have very odd dreams :o .

I have never had a dream within a dream. I suppose that having difficulties to get slept in real life, my dreamt self don't even try :).



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10 Feb 2012, 4:17 pm

whitemissacacia wrote:
ghostar wrote:
I have dreams within dreams too. I forgot to mention that earlier.


Inception? :lol:


No kidding, right? I went to see that movie on a first date and it kind of ruined the date because all I wanted to talk about after the movie was dreaming...he was NT and really couldn't get onboard with my intense level of interest in topics.



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10 Feb 2012, 4:20 pm

ghostar wrote:
all I wanted to talk about after the movie was dreaming...he was NT and really couldn't get onboard with my intense level of interest in topics.


His loss, I am sure.



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11 Feb 2012, 3:10 am

I became able to have lucid dreams after reading a book about them in my 20s, but I have only had a few and not kept up the practices I learned to encourage them very well. Apparently, some people even spontaneously become able to have them after simply learning they exist!

The first time I realized I was dreaming, I went into a building on a warm, sunny day and came out to see it snowing. That made no sense, so I hopped up into the air to be sure. Yup, I could fly! It was pretty cool.

I find I feel better rested if I have a lucid dream before I wake up.


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11 Feb 2012, 3:45 am

proxybear wrote:
I used to conduct a lot of lucid dreams some time back.

I would do certain things for them to happen frequently, such as MILD, DILD and WILD.

It was a lot of fun, but the lucid part of most of the dreams were quite short before I found myself awake in my bed (no FA). Though, I did have one lucid dream that I didn't have too much control over that kept looping forever, me wanting to wake up. It was a pretty nasty experience being stuck in a dream that kept repeating itself with slight variations, knowing it was a dream.


I had a dream like this once! In general, I've noticed that my dream time is much, much, much longer than the amount of real time that passes while dreaming. So, when I entered this one dream, that was quite intense, nightmarish even, where I would run into a situation, die, start over, run into the situation again, figure out how to avoid death, run into another situation, die, start all over... it was a loop of horrific deaths in bizarre situations, and I had to learn how to sequentially avoid each one and remember the correct sequence or die and start all over...well, it was a LONG dream. It felt as if months had gone by, by the time I woke up for real. I was honestly confused about where I was, and had completely lost track of the day to day schedule I was supposed to be keeping, it took me a few days to get back into my rhythm.

I don't know if it is normal, but I start REM immediately when I first fall asleep, too. When in the mood to do so, I will fall asleep, dream, and have an alarm set for 5-15 minutes later to wake me, and go back to sleep, dream, and have the alarm wake me again in another 5-15 min. And repeat until lucid dreaming. It's helpful when I am trying to enter into a lucid dream state, because once I get into one, I can ignore the alarm and continue the dream.


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11 Feb 2012, 12:31 pm

I don't think I can say that I have. In a lot of dreams, I do realize that everything is far too ridiculous to really be happening, but don't seem to have control over them. I've somehow managed to get some particular dreams to sort of reoccur, such as with the sensation of flying, but still don't have much control it feels like. Suppose I could do more research on it if I really wanted to, but I don't care much either way, and I like to try to decipher what some may mean or at least use them for inspiration.


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11 Feb 2012, 12:57 pm

Back when I learned about lucid dreaming, I got one of those devices in a mask you wear to sleep that can flash lights, make beeps, or both for varying lengths of time. You can even set how bright and loud it is. It detects REM and signals you, but you have to learn to interpret what this will look like in the dream and also not wake up from it. It can work, but I found it was best to use it only for a while to help me increase the likelihood of becoming lucid. It keeps signalling every so often, so the risk that it will wake you continues, just as the ability to signal you if you forget you're dreaming or start another cycle continues. Also, my fibromyalgia makes it hard to sleep in general with something like that on. It gets kind of uncomfortable. So, my period of use would go something like:

1) Learn to get used to the mask being on me so I can fall asleep.
2) Learn to recognize the red flashes as they might appear in dreams as a reasons for a reality check (a fire in a building, for example).
3) Enjoy the lucidity while trying not to wake up from the next signal.
4) Become accustomed to the lights, so that I begin to ignore and sleep through them, while at the same time becoming irritated by the mask.
5) Take a break before trying again.

My interest in lucid dreaming is being stimulated again by this discussion. Perhaps I should dig out the old mask and start practicing things like reality checks over the course of the day. Maybe I'll start carrying around the cat laser so that I can flash the red pointer and then do a reality check every so often.

My main problem is deciding what I want to do once I'm lucid. Spinning helps keep me asleep, to a certain extent (a little autie type fun?), as does simply reminding myself that it's a dream and that I want to continue to sleep. Flying is usually very little trouble, once I get up in the air the first time. Passing through walls and the like is not too much harder. I'm not very successful at finding solutions to problems in lucid dreams. I suppose I could work on increasing my control over specific dream elements. Simply observing the dream while lucid often tends to stall it in some fashion. I often find it makes me seem to speed upward endlessly, in some kind of shaft or something.

What else do people around here like to do, and how do you prefer to accomplish it?


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11 Feb 2012, 1:46 pm

http://www.reddit.com/r/luciddreaming

That subreddit has lots of information about lucid dreaming and how to induce them. The two biggest that people in that subreddit use are WBTB (wake back to bed) and WILD (wake induced lucid dreaming).

The dream within a dream thing is actually a false awakening. If you do a reality check you will find out you are still dreaming.



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11 Feb 2012, 9:44 pm

I have been able to lucid dream since I was about 4 years old. I now have them about twice a week. It is a very useful skill for me. I play the piano and in my lucid dreams I can practice piano pieces to perfection and then be able to play it just as good when I wake up because when you learn to do things in dreams, your brain makes the same connections as if you were learning it in a waking state. Lucid dreaming can be a powerful tool as well as being really fun :) I like to fly in my dreams.



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11 Feb 2012, 10:12 pm

It happened a lot when I was younger (less then 10), but not so much now.


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12 Feb 2012, 2:43 pm

This is re-awakening my interest in this subject. While most of my dreams are usually really fragmented, I have a few that re-occur. Always trying to see if that means anything. Controlling the action might make them make a little more sense.
Maybe..

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12 Feb 2012, 6:36 pm

Lucid dreaming was one of my main obsessions, still is occasionally. Sometimes I'll be somewhat lucid if I happen to have my sleep disturbed sometime in the night, and my brain gets woken up. But yeah, I've been lucid dreaming for over 10 years, and about 8 years of trying to induce them. It's a pain though that true control of the dream is nearly impossible to achieve, and I'll constantly get taken out of the dream if I don't stay focused.