Voilent meltdowns? I just needt o know I'm ont alone.

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28 Feb 2012, 1:33 am

You shouldn't hit your head. That can really cause you serious long term damage.



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28 Feb 2012, 1:46 am

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You shouldn't hit your head. That can really cause you serious long term damage.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious but when I'm like that I'm not exactly thinking clearly or able to control myself. I'm more of a screamer and thrower.
I already have brain damage though and no, not from head hitting.


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28 Feb 2012, 1:59 am

Sometimes I think we all need a hug. Violent meltdowns suck. :cry:



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28 Feb 2012, 2:02 am

pensieve wrote:
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You shouldn't hit your head. That can really cause you serious long term damage.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious but when I'm like that I'm not exactly thinking clearly or able to control myself. I'm more of a screamer and thrower.
I already have brain damage though and no, not from head hitting.


I have sensory sensitivity and can't imagine how anyone can do that. I'd probably kill myself with one blow. I have a neck injury to go with so that wouldn't be good.
I don't like to see people hurt themselves unnecessarily. Life is hard enough. I've always been too sensitive, though. Please take care of yourself.



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28 Feb 2012, 2:18 am

I don't get as violent as some describe their meltdowns but anyway, it has happened to me. I scream and throw things and whatever I touch or have to grab, I do it with a lot of force and I also have pushed people away...those occasions are rare. I don't think a lot about what I'm doing, I just do it and am not controlling myself. Afterwards I feel exhausted.



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28 Feb 2012, 4:49 am

Thanks for all your replies.

I have had a lot of incidents where I hit my head and have been afraid of the long term damage. I used to do it a lot when I was a kid. I dn't do it as much now, and it's very rare.

I'm going through a really difficult time right now so at the very least it's good to know I'm not alone, but now I feel kind of awful that I can't really help people or that this happens in the first place.

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Thank you for pointing out the obvious but when I'm like that I'm not exactly thinking clearly or able to control myself. I'm more of a screamer and thrower.


I don't know but I think that eigerpere was just worried about you. There's no reason to be offended.



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28 Feb 2012, 4:55 am

I've found that vitamin B supplements help a great deal. Since I'm taking larger amounts of vitamin B 6, I didn't have any meltdowns or breakdowns. I feel less depressed too, and I can better cope with stressful shopping trips.



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28 Feb 2012, 8:36 am

I have meltdowns about once a week. Last night I threw my saber saw repeatedly around the room smashing it to pieces and making a huge hole in the wall.

lets hope today goes better.



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28 Feb 2012, 12:24 pm

read this post!!
it should answer your question...

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt191273.html


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28 Feb 2012, 4:21 pm

There's a difference between a real meltdown and people who use it as an excuse to behave badly. Destroying property like that is inexcusable for anyone, including autistic people.



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28 Feb 2012, 5:25 pm

I would in fact advise everyone to try NOT to hurt yourselves during meltdowns. To try to avoid it. Now I can understand that, as pensieve says, during a meltdown you're not exactly thinking straight. AND I must say it appears there's some self-control at play if you direct your violence on yourself. I, on the other hand, tend to mostly target inanimate objects when I experience a tantrum. When I was a child I actually used to attack other people. I kid you not. I would invariably pick brawls with people when I reached that edge, I went for blood. THANKFULLY I've come to control that. I mean, I still get outbursts every once in a while, but it's usually just screaming and I don't even get around kicking or punching furniture, walls etc., because my rational mind takes into consideration the repercussions that damaging the property of others could have. But to return to my point: it's better to direct your frustration at an inanimate object than at yourself. Pick something that's disposable or old, or perhaps unbreakable, but do something you won't hurt yourself with.


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28 Feb 2012, 5:30 pm

This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism.



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28 Feb 2012, 5:57 pm

eigerpere wrote:
This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism.


Semantics. Destroying property, hurting others, hurting oneself are all manifestations of a tantrum that's a direct result of a state of mind. A state of mind that may be caused by sensory overload, or a sudden change your mind has difficulty dealing with, et cetera, and may be directly tied to one's autism.

Parents -good parents- don't 'let' their autistic child wreak the damage they do when they have an outburst. Just as much as parents don't 'let' their autistic children isolate themselves and sit in a corner by themselves when all the other children are playing with each other. As a parent, you can tell your child 'What you did was wrong. You shouldn't behave in that way. Your actions have consequences, and in this case the consequences can be nasty.', the child may agree, but when the tensions build again, the rage can override the rational part of the brain.

It's too easy to say that parents whose child gets so angry he or she damages things in their own house, are neglectful in their responsibilities of raising a child.


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28 Feb 2012, 6:33 pm

CyclopsSummers wrote:
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This isn't an autistic thing, it's a behavior thing, and behaviors like that need to come with consequences. Some people just let their kids run wild and blame it on disorders and conditions and those kids in turn grow up to think it's acceptable behavior that should be tolerated. To each his own but don't call it autism.


Semantics. Destroying property, hurting others, hurting oneself are all manifestations of a tantrum that's a direct result of a state of mind. A state of mind that may be caused by sensory overload, or a sudden change your mind has difficulty dealing with, et cetera, and may be directly tied to one's autism.

Parents -good parents- don't 'let' their autistic child wreak the damage they do when they have an outburst. Just as much as parents don't 'let' their autistic children isolate themselves and sit in a corner by themselves when all the other children are playing with each other. As a parent, you can tell your child 'What you did was wrong. You shouldn't behave in that way. Your actions have consequences, and in this case the consequences can be nasty.', the child may agree, but when the tensions build again, the rage can override the rational part of the brain.

It's too easy to say that parents whose child gets so angry he or she damages things in their own house, are neglectful in their responsibilities of raising a child.


When there are consequences to bad behavior there will be less bad behavior over time. Blaming it on a condition doesn't justify anything. It only gives the condition that many suffer with a bad name.



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28 Feb 2012, 6:48 pm

Yes, I too have had these kinds of meltdowns and sleep issues, Exercise helps, but I wish there was a better solution, some kind of miracle relaxation technique or drug.



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28 Feb 2012, 7:30 pm

Usually a couple drinks does the trick for me along with laying on a soft couch and listening to some music, watch some tv and taking a long nap. I usually feel better afterwards. If i do not do those techniques it gets very difficult to recover and i get a lingering headache filled with guilt and depression.