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12 Mar 2012, 4:13 am

ktbug wrote:
I haven't taken the tests but I have perfect/absolute pitch, and I tune pianos by ear.


I envy you, I have to use a tuner ;P



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12 Mar 2012, 5:25 am

Tone Deaf Teast 72.2% Correct

Adaptive Pitch: 0.675 Hz

Musical Visual Intelligence: 75%
Pitch discrimination: 73.9%
Musical memory: 82.0%
Contour discrimination: 63.9%
Attention: 72.0%
Musical/visual abstraction: 81.9%

Rhythm Test: 80.0%


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12 Mar 2012, 1:07 pm

Tone deaf Test: 94% Correct

Adaptive Pitch: 4.8 Hz

Musical Visual Intelligence: 70%
Pitch discrimination: 65,2%
Musical memory: 71,5%
Contour discrimination: 71,1%
Attention: 68,8%
Musical/visual abstraction: 70,6%

Rhythm test: 68% correct


Given that I love music....it's a shame that I'm only above average in one test.
I wonder if pitch discrimination and the parameters in the tone deaf test correlate in any way since I got oppositional results then...if they were linked.
I also have played instruments since I was 5 and had dance classes since I was 7.....but that didn't help me I guess.

btbnnyr wrote:
Tonedeaf: 100%
Adaptive Pitch: 0.6 Hz
AMVI: 100%
100% pitch discrimination, 100% musical memory, 95.2% contour discrimination, 97.8% attention, 100% musical/visual abstraction
Rhythm: 84%

That most be wonderful to listen that clearly to music.



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12 Mar 2012, 2:03 pm

Tonedeaf Test: 83'3% correct. Very good performance.
Adaptive Pitch: At 500 Hz, I can reliably differentiate two tones 7.2 Hz apart. Low-normal.
Visual learning: 80%. Excellent performance.
Rythm test: 80% correct. Outstanding performance.

I'm a musician, so... hahahahaha! :oops:



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12 Mar 2012, 2:52 pm

Yikes! I was hoping I wasn't the only one with deficits in this area, but you've all done really well!

I knew I'd do really poorly, though. I remember in one of my audio classes early on in college that my teacher played this piece of music, and she kept pointing out this subtle part in the music and asking if we noticed it. One by one, my classmates responded that they heard whatever it was she was talking about. When she got to me, I said I didn't hear it. She increased the volume and told everyone to be quiet, and played it again. I didn't hear anything. My teacher looked at me like I was crazy. :oops:

I might try retaking the test with my Audiotechnicas on...I was listening through my macbook speakers, and there was some external noise, but I doubt I'll do much better. :?


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12 Mar 2012, 3:09 pm

lostgirl1986 wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
Tonedeaf: 100%
Adaptive Pitch: 0.6 Hz
AMVI: 100%
100% pitch discrimination, 100% musical memory, 95.2% contour discrimination, 97.8% attention, 100% musical/visual abstraction
Rhythm: 84%


Wow^ Are one of your special interests something that has to do with music? Are you in the field?


Alas, I know nothing about music. When I was a kid, I took piano lessons for a short time, but I gave it up, because my hand-eye coordination and piano-playing motor skills were too poor to make much progress, and I also learned nothing about music theory when the teacher tried to teach it to me. Music was considered my area of suckage. I did sing and play by ear with incorrect fingers, since it was much easier for me to transfer hearing sounds into movements of mouth or fingers than to do the same from sheet music and instruction. I was not good at taking instruction in any area.

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in Tonedeaf Test my only errors was hearing a difference that was not there (maybe I should retry this with good headphones to isolate from the environment?), score 77.8%, second time it was 80.6%


I had this problem too, detecting differences in trials that were the "same". I followed a rule in which if the things sounded extremely different, then they were different, but if the things sounded slightly different, then they were the same. So all ambiguous cases were "SAME", even though none sounded eggsacly the same to me. But in reality, none were the same, because each processing of these sounds by the brrrainzzz is an unique set of events, and there is background noise too, so the sameness is an illusion caused by lack of discrimination, which results in the generalization into sameness. I have always thought that too much discrimination of individual sounds would cause major problems in processing and understanding speech as big blobs of sound with meaning instead of little drips of sound one by one disconnected harder to put consistent meanings to those series of drips that sound different to you while blobs sounds same to others to quickly get the meanings.



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12 Mar 2012, 4:55 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
lostgirl1986 wrote:
btbnnyr wrote:
Tonedeaf: 100%
Adaptive Pitch: 0.6 Hz
AMVI: 100%
100% pitch discrimination, 100% musical memory, 95.2% contour discrimination, 97.8% attention, 100% musical/visual abstraction
Rhythm: 84%


Wow^ Are one of your special interests something that has to do with music? Are you in the field?


Alas, I know nothing about music. When I was a kid, I took piano lessons for a short time, but I gave it up, because my hand-eye coordination and piano-playing motor skills were too poor to make much progress, and I also learned nothing about music theory when the teacher tried to teach it to me. Music was considered my area of suckage. I did sing and play by ear with incorrect fingers, since it was much easier for me to transfer hearing sounds into movements of mouth or fingers than to do the same from sheet music and instruction. I was not good at taking instruction in any area.

kojot wrote:
in Tonedeaf Test my only errors was hearing a difference that was not there (maybe I should retry this with good headphones to isolate from the environment?), score 77.8%, second time it was 80.6%


I had this problem too, detecting differences in trials that were the "same". I followed a rule in which if the things sounded extremely different, then they were different, but if the things sounded slightly different, then they were the same. So all ambiguous cases were "SAME", even though none sounded eggsacly the same to me. But in reality, none were the same, because each processing of these sounds by the brrrainzzz is an unique set of events, and there is background noise too, so the sameness is an illusion caused by lack of discrimination, which results in the generalization into sameness. I have always thought that too much discrimination of individual sounds would cause major problems in processing and understanding speech as big blobs of sound with meaning instead of little drips of sound one by one disconnected harder to put consistent meanings to those series of drips that sound different to you while blobs sounds same to others to quickly get the meanings.


Yes, exactly. That was my strategy for the second time, but still it's confusing to hit "same" button when I can hear the difference!

About the instruments. I can play well ONLY when not looking at the fret-board (guitar) and I play best with eyes closed. Music theory boars me to death. (OK, occasionally I find intriguing) I play by ear, it's simpler and faster for me.
When I tried to play drums I finally succeed when I was drunk and had closed eyes, from now on I can play basic drums. The coordination problems vanished when I stopped trying to coordinate anything and started to just play :D

With your talent you could be playing even violin in no time. I believe in it. Because it must be just like breathing for you! ;) When you start to control breathing - it gets sloppy, but when you just let it go, it flows :)

Music is great, please don't waste your talent :)



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13 Mar 2012, 1:30 am

btbnnyr wrote:
Alas, I know nothing about music. When I was a kid, I took piano lessons for a short time, but I gave it up, because my hand-eye coordination and piano-playing motor skills were too poor to make much progress, and I also learned nothing about music theory when the teacher tried to teach it to me. Music was considered my area of suckage. I did sing and play by ear with incorrect fingers, since it was much easier for me to transfer hearing sounds into movements of mouth or fingers than to do the same from sheet music and instruction. I was not good at taking instruction in any area.
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At long as it sounded good if you played by ear...even when using incorrect fingers.

And yes, I also was not sure if the test was about subtleties or not. If it's clear it was different and if it wasn't, that it wasn't even if you thought you heard something different.