How to identify someone being on the spectrum?

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13 Apr 2012, 4:54 am

Can anyone try to provide me a concrete list of criteria? And/or questions that are socially acceptable to ask, but reveal social awkwardness (or the lack of such) plus a description of the meaning of each answer.



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13 Apr 2012, 11:10 am

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13 Apr 2012, 1:04 pm

Pragmatist wrote:
Can anyone try to provide me a concrete list of criteria? And/or questions that are socially acceptable to ask, but reveal social awkwardness (or the lack of such) plus a description of the meaning of each answer.


You have to remember that whilst there is criteria, not everyone will meet it. For example, I do not have issues regarding routine; but know people with AS who do.

I think I have managed to work out one person who has AS - about a year before he was diagnosed, I think. I did once have someone (who, like many on here isn't qualified to diagnose people with AS) tell me I don't have a form of ASD. Actually, a few have said that. These people do no know me at all.

Last year, it was a friend's birthday and we were in a pub. He explained before that because it's a pub, there would be people there who aren't friends of his. There was one lady I got talking to. The first question she asked me was, do you have Autism? I didn't know how to react to that - I had never been diagnosed; but it had been suggested a few times previously in the past.



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13 Apr 2012, 1:20 pm

We have to remember that mild autism, mild schizophrenia spectrum and introversion are almost identical in external presentation; I doubt that being possible to "diagnose" accurately someone only by his mannerisms (even in people officially diagnosed, I suspect that in many cases the personal bias of the clinician is decisive).



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13 Apr 2012, 1:36 pm

The ones you should question are the ones who are overly nice, smile way too much as those are the ones who are putting on a show. It's funny because the ones who do that and put on the show aren't questioned but the ones who really are easy going and nice always have to prove themselves. It's lame.

Also I wouldn't provide information to how you can tell even if someone is mildly autistic because that's usually turned into a tool to be cruel to someone because someone doesn't like the idea of being in the same room as someone who is autistic. How about this. How can you tell if someone is a human?



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13 Apr 2012, 1:51 pm

I am MOSTLY aware of my own differences these days. I feel like a sore thumb, if you want to know..
I can tell severely & moderately autistics, but other HFAs are much harder to spot. At least as far as first impressions goes. Since I was ignorant of all that means, decades ago I missed the symptoms my best friend displayed. He has PDDNOS so it is even harder. His son has Asperger's and a cousin is severely autistic so that is a family thing. However, in those days EVERYONE was IGNORANT of the full extent of the Spectrum.

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13 Apr 2012, 6:03 pm

Wandering_Stranger wrote:
You have to remember that whilst there is criteria, not everyone will meet it. For example, I do not have issues regarding routine; but know people with AS who do.

Of course. But every item from the list would increase the subject's change of being an aspie. Especially true for items directly related to mandatory symptoms, such as social awkwardness (or are there aspies with some other symptoms, but not social awkwardness? that would be extremely interesting).