How do you deal with feeling suicidal?

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I hear this a lot, but I would ask...SO!?!? They are not you...so who gives a flying f*ck!??! !

I sometimes think it's a form of censorship. "Oh no, how can you say that, don't talk about suicide, don't make me think about death. Death creeps me out. Nobody should be allowed to mention suicide, ever. And nobody should be allowed to die, for that matter. Let's put everyone on life support until they're 150 years old. You have so much to live for, total stranger that I don't know the first thing about, now cheer up already and stop giving us the willies"

When I read these threads, I really sympathize because I've been there myself. I know how utterly pointless life can be. And when I set out to type a response, my first impulse is to write "if it's that bad for you, go ahead and end it, but make sure you do it right. You're allowed to do that. It's your life, you don't owe it to anybody else". But then I stop and think "oh dear, I can't possibly post that. People will think I'm a sociopath who gets a kick out of talking others into suicide".

Then I briefly consider writing something pointless and shallow like "hang in there, life gets better", but I don't see the point in lying to people. Life never gets better in the long run. It's always terminal, and the stress, pain and suffering usually outweighs the good times. What keeps most people going and relatively happy is responsibility for others. If people don't have any responsibility, there is really no point in sticking around. That's why so many teenagers commit suidice nowadays, because we treat them like immature children way past the point of biological maturity and don't give them any societal purpose.

Back in the day, kids learned a trade from their parents and had to take adult responsibilities at a very young age. Nowadays, 30 year old men live with their parents and waste their time in front of a game console. They've been treated like children all their life, never had a coming of age ceremony, were never told "congratulations, you're now an adult", were never assigned a useful role in society, and were consequently never considered a viable partner choice by the opposite sex. Men seem to have a harder time dealing with this utter lack of direction, purpose and goals than women, which explains the high suicide rate among males.

Anyway, as a fellow useless male who fails to be reproductively successful and can't fulfil his biological function as a family provider, I can't give suicidal people any honest advice. I know I'm supposed to tell them to look at the bright side, hang in there, smell the flowers, or at least pop a lot of pills. Antidepressants, not sleeping pills. But I don't like to bullsh*t people. It's dishonest, imho. So I usually end up deleting my post, or I simply post "get a cat or two in order to simulate a provider role and make you feel less lonely". That's the only advice I have, other than "go ahead, but don't just cripple yourself or you'll be worse off than before".

Well, nobody wants to be a pariah. As long as you're not on the lowest rung of the socio-economic class ladder, you can allow yourself some pride and self-respect. That's why it's helpful to compare yourself to others. People usually call it "being grateful for what you have", but it's really just the uplifting thought of having a higher societal status than some other poor bastard (and therefore slightly better survival and reproductive chances, at least in theory). Not judging here btw, I do that myself.

People want to help somene suicidal because it's an action you can't undo. It's final and drastic.

I've been feeling suicidal on and off for 20 years. Everyday is something I force myself to get through. I think of the person who would find my dead body. I don't know who they would be maybe a stranger stumbles across me. I don't want to put someone in that position. What about the police and that paramedics that have to deal with my corpse. It's not fair on them. What about the person who has to tell my parents? That must be a horrific job.

I think about distant relatives living in other countries. I never see them but if one of them killeded themselves I would hurt I would wish they had reached out for help. They are so far away in our homeland I don't see them often, but at least I have the hope I will see them again. If I kill myself I will never see them again and I will hurt them.

It's not worth causing the pain. So I struggle on and try and find enjoyment in little things. I think you really must visit your doctor and they can prescribe antidepressants and maybe therapy. I've done that before and it helps. I need to go back again this week and ask for more help. It's something I know I will have to keep doing my whole life.

You don't know what life has in store. My curiosity keeps me going too. I want to see new technology unfolding. I find it exciting.

Why is Suicide illegal for those that suffer from mental illnesses? Honestly, if someone has done everything that they can to elevate there mental issues and still find there quality of life sub standard why can't they make that choice for themselves? Don't miss understand my post. I'm not considering this as an option for myself. I just don't understand why are country spends millions of dollars every year to prevent people from taking there own life. If it were made legal I honestly feel less people would see this as a option. Allot of people will do the opposite of what other people advise them to do. And most of the time people who are voicing that they are thinking of taking there life are just merely voicing how bad they feel mentally. If saying I feel like killing myself was not viewed as a crime and these individuals were not held against there will in a mental hospital this would save millions of dollars. If taking ones life was viewed in a different perspective as a individuals choice this would allow someone to clearly make there exit plan. It has already been proven that in the states that have made euthanasia legal for those with terminal illness very few people have actually choose this option. Also, I thought that religion and government were not suppose to go together. The separation of church and state. Suicide is forbidden in most religions and many of our laws were created from religious laws. Once again then is only my perspective on the issue and have no intentions of harming myself.

What really helped me is getting angry after all these years of being treated like crap, and living with major depression and anxiety I finally snapped and I said to myself screw you world it's as if you want me to die so badly well f-you I'll live my life even if it sucks and you can't take this experience away from me, the sun the trees the days they are mine, and for some reason that helped a lot.

Mostly because nobody but those with a serious bias against them wants them to die, and nobody wants to change the law to make it legal.

Suicide is not a crime you can really punish. If it succeeds the perpetrator is dead. If it doesn't, the only person who was hurt and could press charges would be helping incriminate himself. I don't think we've tried to prosecute people for attempting suicide for a long time, not unless there was a more complex situation that involved more than just one person trying to hurt themselves.

Suicide being illegal is more symbolic. It's a statement that human life is valuable, that the government still has a stake in your existence even when you cannot protect yourself, that we have a responsibility to support each other when there is risk of suicide. Such laws are the basis of the laws that mandate that when a doctor or other professional thinks there's a risk of suicide they can't just leave you alone; they have to help. Suicide being illegal means that it's possible to be an accessory to that crime--to urge someone on to suicide, or to refuse help when it's needed--and that people who do not help their fellow man when they have a good reason to believe that they need help, can be prosecuted for their negligence or malevolent intent.

In places where euthanasia is legal, it's only legal for those who are in their right mind and able to competently make that decision. We don't want to allow suicide for people with mental illness because we don't want them to die; we want them to recover. Recovery is possible in most cases; in the cases where it is not possible, a satisfying life still is.

We also don't want to send a message to people with mental illness that we want them to die or think it's okay when their mental illness overcomes them to the degree that they lose the will to live. Having suicide illegal is a way to make that statement.

Most people with mental illnesses who survive suicide attempts would not, if they were in their right mind, want to die. There has been some research done on people who made serious suicide attempts and survived; almost universally they are glad they survived. That points to the idea that a suicidal mentally ill person would not be suicidal if he were able to think clearly, and that the appropriate response is to try to prevent the suicide and facilitate recovery.

please call the suicide hotline next time you feel this way.
i'm anti social myself and feel anxious and depressed around company. your father sounds like a bad and violent person and you had a real bad start in life.
but you can go to college and pursue your interests, or obsessions. and getting a pet will help you so much. there's nothing like having a pet. it's so comforting and soothing.
you can also make friends with other aspies. there are places where aspies meet, can find it online, and of course there's this forum. it's great.
i think you should learn self defense. it boosted my self esteem, and it might just do the same for you, although i'm still aspie-shy.
if you learn self defense and take it seriously, no one will ever hit you again. and i'm so sorry you were placed in such horrible places. nobody has the right to steal your freedom like that.

I know the feeling, though for different reasons....I have attempted before when I was 15, but last time I was worried about acting on feeling suicidal I just had myself admitted to the psych ward which kept me from doing that till it wasn't as strong of an urge anymore. Other then that I've been in therapy off and on but not so sure if I've really benefited much from it....but it's one idea. I also smoke cannabis, use various herbs for various mental/physical ailments and I have trazodone for sleep and anxiety I figure I would rather do those things than suicide...since the main thing is reducing the pain I am in so it's not unbearable.

Also facebook is not the best place to discuss these things, more often than not people just get nasty comments for mentioning their deep not so great feelings....I never post about how I am feeling on there really I save that for here and a couple other mental health sites I go to...but even those aren't always safe.

As for being a virgin well from my perspective not being one isn't all it's cut out to be....my first time wasn't 'special' the relationship ended when I realized he was essentially using me and more or less leading me on indicating he was intrested in really dating and having a relationship but then he only really wanted sex and started getting harder and harder to talk to like there was no connection. I've had other sex and other relationships since then none of which have lasted. So though I understand people find it frusterating to be over 18 and not have had sex yet....well unless its the sex specifically you want and you don't have much concern for a relationship with that person.............but I don't know I just don't see my lack of being a virgin as an accomplishment, it certainly hasn't made me feel any better about myself or my life really.