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12 Jun 2012, 4:04 pm

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I think instead of wanting to cure it, we all should focus on things about ourselves we would like cured eg. sensory issues or issues with reading people, issues with coping with change, anything that causes us trouble. But if some people would like to cure their AS, up to them and it's their own condition. I just figure they maybe have it that bad or are unhappy with their lives so they figure if they didn't have it, their lives be a lot easier. I used to feel the same way but only because I wanted to be normal. I would still get moments where I wished I didn't have it.

I would like my anxiety to be cured and my learning problems. I think my life would be a lot easier that way. I see nothing good about having anxiety or a learning disability. My mother once tried making me having anxiety as a good thing because she told me it makes me think about my choices before doing them and all the consequences or things that may go wrong. I think you can still do that without the anxiety. It's called thinking about your choices and actions.


That's the thing. If you take away the biggest problems with my brain, my inability to use nonverbal communcation, my executive dysfunction, my difficulty context-switching, and so forth... I'd no longer meet the criteria for any form of autism. I would not be autistic. By definition, I would be cured of autism.



But they would still have the positives about it right if they could get rid of the negatives?


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12 Jun 2012, 4:14 pm

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I think instead of wanting to cure it, we all should focus on things about ourselves we would like cured eg. sensory issues or issues with reading people, issues with coping with change, anything that causes us trouble. But if some people would like to cure their AS, up to them and it's their own condition. I just figure they maybe have it that bad or are unhappy with their lives so they figure if they didn't have it, their lives be a lot easier. I used to feel the same way but only because I wanted to be normal. I would still get moments where I wished I didn't have it.

I would like my anxiety to be cured and my learning problems. I think my life would be a lot easier that way. I see nothing good about having anxiety or a learning disability. My mother once tried making me having anxiety as a good thing because she told me it makes me think about my choices before doing them and all the consequences or things that may go wrong. I think you can still do that without the anxiety. It's called thinking about your choices and actions.


That's the thing. If you take away the biggest problems with my brain, my inability to use nonverbal communcation, my executive dysfunction, my difficulty context-switching, and so forth... I'd no longer meet the criteria for any form of autism. I would not be autistic. By definition, I would be cured of autism.



But they would still have the positives about it right if they could get rid of the negatives?


I don't see why not. There's NTs running around right now with those same positives.



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12 Jun 2012, 4:43 pm

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And my therapist has been often fond of saying, and I quothe

"If they found a way to cure autism spectrum disorders in their entirety, the world would become a very boring, and very unintellectual place, and creativity as whole, would stop, utterly"

Perhaps your therapist should seek therapy.

There are highly creative / intellectual / etc. / etc. NT's aswell. Believing Aspies, or autists as a group is the glue that holds the world together, is borderline group megalomania. There has been a hype in the US with Aspies elevated to Godlike proportions highlighting only the positive traits, and perhaps he has been mesmerized by this notion. But saying "the world would become a very boring, and very unintellectual place", and that "creativity as whole, would stop, utterly" if ASD was cured, is nothing short of delusional.

I have nothing against highlighting positive attributes, but I also think it's important to be realistic and work on improving the negative traits.


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12 Jun 2012, 5:00 pm

While I tend to think the statement is sensationalistic and a tad over the top, certwinly the success stories of others admist everything else drives such opinions. My therapist is the more empowering type over the curing type, which works for me.

Certainly there are arguments to the contrary of that statement, and i tend to agree with them in those cases.

I still dont want to be cured. I like myself, for all the like I can do of it.


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12 Jun 2012, 5:13 pm

I'd like to have a cure for each of my co morbids such of anxiety and depression. I don't want a cure for my AS, because it contributes to my personality and I don't feel that I suffer from the AS.


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12 Jun 2012, 8:51 pm

A cure should be available for people who want it, but I don't feel that it should be mandatory. I feel that it should be up to each person if they wish to be cured or not. That way, it would be a win-win situation to everybody on the spectrum, whether or not they wish to be cured. 8)


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12 Jun 2012, 9:02 pm

All I need is regular counseling session, social skills training (CBT would be fun to try), perhaps some kinds of medications, people I can talk to about my career, people I can talk to about social skills... I know a lot of these overlap, but my point is that I can't afford any of this stuff because there is no money funding it.


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12 Jun 2012, 9:10 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
A cure should be available for people who want it, but I don't feel that it should be mandatory. I feel that it should be up to each person if they wish to be cured or not. That way, it would be a win-win situation to everybody on the spectrum, whether or not they wish to be cured. 8)


I agree completely with this.

For me, I would not take a cure because I like who I am with Asperger's.


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12 Jun 2012, 10:35 pm

I don't wish for a cure, also.
What I like is that I have no compulsion to act according to the expectations of others. I like living in a world free of invisible beings and hidden motives. The minister of the church in which I am still a member said in a sermon that he felt pity for those who are logical and rational. I certainly don't agree. It's impossible for me to experience mysticism or believe in superstitions. I have my various obsessions, but they are usually harmless. My current obsession is dangling prepositions. I don't know why. I have trouble with bright lights and fluorescent lights, but I have sunglasses for those. I am easily startled by loud noises, which can be annoying. Overall, the positive attributes outweigh the negatives.



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14 Jun 2012, 11:48 am

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If you could replace the wheelchair with working legs, that would take getting used to as well. But I don't see any more reason to reject that than there is to reject the better wheelchair


My point was I don't want to have my disability cured. It has contributed to making me the person I am now.

It's the exact same thing as others saying they don't want a cure for their AS, It's a part of who we are.

I'm perfectly fine with being a paraplegic and an aspie.


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14 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

If it turns out to be what describes me then no, I wouldn't want a cure either. The only thing I would want is to be able to go back and do-over the last 20-25 years knowing what I do about life and people now. As much as I enjoy a fair amount of time alone, I don't like always being alone and not being able to have a girlfriend. It's not that I never meet someone I like but rather that they never like me that way in return because of my age. If I was younger and able to relate to people like I do now as opposed to then I would probably at least be able to get a date. Back then, the hurt that had been visited upon me by others had made me VERY closed off and constantly defensive. It took until my mid 30's to finally be able to get away from that way of thinking and by then the easy opportunities to learn women had dried up.

(Sorry to rant about this but it's been on my mind a lot lately and making me very depressed.)


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14 Jun 2012, 12:33 pm

I wonder if/how people's opinion on a "cure" changes over the years. My evaluation is next week, and I think if I do indded have AS (as I suspect I do), my desire for a cure might be rather strong because all I see are the negatives and not the positives. Probably doesn't help that a lot of books I see cite genius or even prodigy as the big benefit of AS, and I am neither a genius, nor a prodigy. But perhaps in time I would feel better about AS? I'm just rambling, but I am curious if people have changed their opinion on this idea of a cure. Do people dislike having AS and then later learn to love it?



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14 Jun 2012, 12:51 pm

I am anti-cure never want to be cured even if their was one.



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14 Jun 2012, 12:56 pm

I love how people on this forum say there shouldn't be a cure, I guess that they don't realize the fact that not everyone shares their opinion.



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14 Jun 2012, 1:29 pm

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I love how people on this forum say there shouldn't be a cure, I guess that they don't realize the fact that not everyone shares their opinion.


Not everyone shares your opinon either



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14 Jun 2012, 1:44 pm

Some times I definitely wish I could be NT because I feel like I am a disappointment to all of the NT people around me when I can't get things right or don't understand things that an NT would have absolutely no problems with. The rest of the time I like being who I am because if I was NT I would probably be a very different person. It just depends on how I am feeling, whether or not I wish I could be NT or not. But if a cure was available, I don't think I would take it, because in my opinion, if all of my AS traits just vanished, it would feel like my whole life fell apart because I wouldn't be me anymore.