Anyone have a hard time recognizing people?

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20 Jun 2012, 10:25 am

i have issues immediately recognising people especially if they are new but after a while they start to differentiate from the blob that is humanity. i also have issues with people i have known for a long time and see often. like family or my comrades. it is embarrassing and sometimes people i do not know start speaking to me like they have met me before and its like who the fudge are you?



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20 Jun 2012, 10:46 am

I don't see why this would be common in those with AS - does anyone know the theory behind this? I would have suspected the opposite as we tend to be more visually-orientated than the general population.

I have an extremely good memory for faces. I recognise people I haven't seen in 20 years, and I recognise current actors when I see them in old movies, or I will know that I have seen a lesser-known actor in another movie sometime.

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Another difference between my husband and I is how we store our memories about people. If he sees someone he thinks he knows, but isn't sure where from or what their name might be, that's the end of it for him. But, with me, I can look at the person or listen to their voice and something about them will trigger certain memories (like where we were when we saw them last, what was said, how I felt about it). The memories might not be clear, but they are there and accessible. It might take me some time, I might even go through the alphabet, trying to get a letter in their name (not necessarily their initials), but I will get there. He doesn't seem to have access to such a memory bank, but he's smart and good at remembering other stuff.

Yes, I am the same. It could be their gait, the way they laugh, anything really. I struggle more with names but I always do the alphabet thing when I'm stuck! I find it fascinating the way a certain letter will "feel right", and it ends up being either a first letter or a dominant letter in some way, or occasionally my synaesthesia gets in the way and the letter is just a similar colour to the person's name :P



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20 Jun 2012, 10:52 am

This is more common in people across the autistic spectrum - AS, autism, PDD-NOS.

Part of your brain does visual processing. A different part of your brain processes faces. For whatever reason, this part of the brain doesn't work as well (or sometimes at all) in people with prosopagnosia.



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20 Jun 2012, 11:04 am

Verdandi wrote:
This is more common in people across the autistic spectrum - AS, autism, PDD-NOS.

Part of your brain does visual processing. A different part of your brain processes faces. For whatever reason, this part of the brain doesn't work as well (or sometimes at all) in people with prosopagnosia.

Aah yes, I'm remembering now. There was a theory that that area is still intact but hasn't been set up for human faces specifically, but perhaps for something else. Similar to how if a human is raised by chimps, he/she will be able to tell chimps apart but not humans. What it is (according to the theory) that those on the spectrum recognise better than faces I cannot recall. I would suspect as you have said, that the fusiform gyrus is simply not functioning properly, rather than differently. Though if there WAS something else being recognised rather than faces, that should surely be exploited!



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20 Jun 2012, 11:09 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
Yes, I am the same. It could be their gait, the way they laugh, anything really. I struggle more with names but I always do the alphabet thing when I'm stuck! I find it fascinating the way a certain letter will "feel right", and it ends up being either a first letter or a dominant letter in some way, or occasionally my synaesthesia gets in the way and the letter is just a similar colour to the person's name :P
Yes, I recognise when a letter feels right too.


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20 Jun 2012, 11:12 am

Well, I often identify people by:

* clothing
* hairstyle
* facial hair
* voice
* mannerisms
* context

Although recognition can be delayed. Like if I meet someone I know somewhere I don't usually see them or expect to see them, it can take me much of the conversation to figure out who they are. I usually cover for this, but it's really awkward, and I think obvious (as in a friend of mine noticed me doing the covering thing on several occasions).

Thank you for supplying the name "fusiform gyrus." I think what you're referring to is rdos' neanderthal theory, which says autistic brains are set up to recognize neanderthal faces. I am not sure it works that way either. I've also seen people discuss possibilities like some of us might have trouble with faces because we find it hard to make eye contact.



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20 Jun 2012, 11:12 am

Yes. I have a hard time recognizing acquaintances or distant family members that I don't see much. I live in a small town, sort of an everybody-knows-everybody type place. I used to work as a cashier at the Wal-Mart there, and I'd have people talk to me, ask me about my family, etc.

It was very hard and awkward, because I knew that we were acquainted somehow, but I just couldn't quite get it. Often, I'd remember like 10 minutes after the person left. If I get a little time to analyze the conversation, I can often remember the person, but I can't quite get it when they're standing right in front of me, putting me on the spot.

I always just try to be as polite as possible. If the person realizes that I didn't recognize them I always offer an apology and just say that I have difficulty remembering faces and names. Most people are pretty cool with that.



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20 Jun 2012, 11:19 am

Sadly, yes. It could be someone I've known forever, but when it's in public, I have a more difficult time.



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20 Jun 2012, 11:54 am

I seem to recognize people by their hair, clothes and general body shape rather than their faces. If someone I know changes their hair and I see them at a store or something, I wouldn't recognize them.
A couple times I didn't recognize coworkers because they didn't have their work clothes on.

I saw an old picture of someone I lived with for 6 years. I've only known him with long hair and a beard and I didn't recognize him in the pic at all because he had short hair and no beard.


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20 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

I can recognize famous people from movies and tv, I'll tell you what show is on in .005 seconds of me entering a room, then I will give you what shows they have been in and other interesting yet utterly useless facts about them....

But when it comes to real live in my face people... Good luck. I don't see their eyes, if I'm stressed I don't see their face or any identifying features above the shoulders...

When I drive the BF to the store, I have to take a mental snapshot of what he's wearing so i can pick him out of the crowd when he comes out of the store so I know when to start the van and unlock his door. There have been times I haven't recognized him because he has bought a new jacket or hat and wore it out of the store. I say "I didn't recognize you" to which he replies <sarc>"yeah I'm incognito"</sarc>

It's a bit disconcerting when you have what you perceive to be a complete stranger trying to get into your vehicle.

My best friend, I talk to him almost everyday, I've only seen him in person a handful of times. The last time I saw him was almost a year ago, I think he had a beard...... I have no idea what he looks like. I'd be able to pick him out by his voice before I would ever recognize him by appearance.

Sorry my Nilla..... You know how it is. :roll:


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