Is Your 2nd Toe As Long Or Longer Than Your Big Toe?

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^^ Fixed that. I'm assuming it was meant to be "NT".

Could someone please tell me how to do the multiquote thing in a single post? I'm clueless I guess.

again_with_this: The 4th option is for NTs with longer 2nd toe.

IdahoRose brings up another point that I thought about including on the poll but I thought it would make it too complicated. Another common Neanderthal trait that is sometimes attributed to aspies (not all aspies but at a great percentage than the general population) is a wider space between the big toe and the 2nd toe.

penetrance: this is the genetic term for having trait which is expressed to varying degrees. This could explain why some have the longer 2nd toe on one foot but not the other.

outofplace: I respectfully disagree about formal diagnoses being more reliable than informal. I base this on all the misdiagnoses out there by professionals and also that most self-diagnosed aspies seem to get it right when they get verification from the right professional. Sometimes they have to see several though because the professionals don't always seem to understand aspergers and misdiagnose. If this was a formal scientific poll, I would have collected this data as well though. This was more for fun and curiosity but the results are so interesting so far I think it would make a great formal survey. We're getting 75% so far when the general population gets less than 10%.

tchek: it is reported to be more prevalent in Celtic and other populations that are thought to have higher than average Neanderthal genes.

Dirtdigger: not sure what you mean by "repeated one of the answer" could you clarify?

OJani: I probably should have included all of autistic spectrum but I think there are some on this board who are not on the autistic spectrum and are not NT's. Isn't PDD-NOS a more "general" diagnosis when they can't decide exactly what it is but it is on autistic spectrum? I'm still confused about this obviously.

CyborgUprising: I only see "I'm an aspie and my 2nd toe is as long or longer than my big toe" listed once. I wonder if there's a software glitch? AHHH..... THANK YOU Cornflake!! Sorry Cyborg!!

Thanks to everyone who is participating. I find this stuff fascinating.

I'm NT and my second toe is longer (I'm also Irish). My son is on the spectrum and his second toe is shorter than his big toe.

I have heard a longer second toe is a sign of intelligence I also think it's prettier.

Morton's toe runs in my family, as does the associated Morton's neuroma. On my right foot the second toe is longer, but on the left foot, the big toe is longer. Having Morton's toe can be a problem is you are a runner, and you can get an irritation at the base of the second toe because of how it hits the ground as opposed to your big toe. If you look on running forums, you will find lots of informaiton on it, as it is not that uncommon. My mom has it and my brother and they do not have AS, but I do have AS.

I'm a clinically diagnosed Aspie with a second toe longer than my big toe on both feet, but so do several NT relatives as my family is of Irish/Celtic heritage.

I've been reading more about this. Every reference so far states that ALL neanderthal skeletons had 2nd toes longer than the big toe and that ALL cro-magnon skeletons had 2nd toe shorter than big toe. It wasn't until later that the 2nd toe longer than the big toe showed up in some Homo sapiens. If this is true, I find this totally fascinating!

If anyone has any evidence to the contrary, please post it here as I'd like to read it. Also, really good references to support this would also be appreciated.

this is cool.I have a longer second toe and never met anyone else who did.The folklore in this region is that if you are female you will try to boss your husband(this didn't work well for me).I also have heard it was an native American trait.The Celtic origin is interesting because I'm Scots-Irish.The neanderthal theory is also interesting.A lot of traits such as sensitivity to sounds and smells could be finely tuned survival adaptions.Whose most likely to get eaten by the Saber tooth tiger? The person who did not hear the twig crackle behind them.

My predicament is kind of weird. On my left foot my second toe is a tad smaller than my big toe but only by a tiny bit. On my right foot my second toe is a little bit bigger than my right toe.

Cool link Dirt Digger.I'm barely 5ft3 very stocky boned with a barrel chest ( once when I was getting a physical the doctor said" Wow, you sure have a big barrel chest").This helped a lot when I learned to play the flute.I also seem to have the "famine gene",it is almost impossible for me to lose weight.I do live in the woods and I have learned to forage native plants.There's a lot of caves around here so I guess it's perfect to revert back to a natural way of life,peaceful.But I don't have brow ridges like Herman Munster.