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28 Jun 2012, 5:56 pm

I don't get flirting or understand it but I have been accused of it before when I was just being my natural self teasing. My mom said what I was doing wasn't flirting and she tried to explain what it is and gave me examples and I just couldn't grasp it. She said "it's hard understanding the social rules about it."

If I have truly flirted, then it was unintentional. I wouldn't say I can't do it nor know how or else it be BS if I have truly done it before. Plus I have heard of flirting going on around here but I just don't see it.


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29 Jun 2012, 4:00 am

My therapist (psychiatrist) told me once I flirt with men (and him) all the time.

8O
Not aware of that either.



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29 Jun 2012, 4:11 am

Find me another aspie who is a female, not obese, and has similar quirks to mine and I would find her VERY attractive-especially if she is short, thin and has no fashion sense and wears no makeup.


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29 Jun 2012, 5:35 am

Toddster wrote:
“Feeling at ease” with someone is an attractive quality


Yep.



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29 Jun 2012, 7:32 am

I don't find other Aspies attractive. All my relationships have been with nts.



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29 Jun 2012, 7:38 am

outofplace wrote:
Find me another aspie who is a female, not obese, and has similar quirks to mine and I would find her VERY attractive-especially if she is short, thin and has no fashion sense and wears no makeup.


Damn that height requirement! I'm almost sexy! :)



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29 Jun 2012, 10:39 am

Issit wrote:
My therapist (psychiatrist) told me once I flirt with men (and him) all the time.

8O
Not aware of that either.



I wonder if this has to do with inappropriate behavior or body language which is common in people with ASDs. People do tend to misread us. But if you are with another person who isn't good at reading body language, they could be the ones misreading you and you aren't doing anything to make them misread you.


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29 Jun 2012, 12:40 pm

League_Girl wrote:
wonder if this has to do with inappropriate behavior or body language which is common in people with ASDs.


Wondering if it could be also maybe like a rigid mask,
role playing on a subconscious level,
or maybe simply mimicking?

(mimicking, connected with a smile and starring is -I guess- a big part of flirting)



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29 Jun 2012, 12:59 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Issit wrote:
My therapist (psychiatrist) told me once I flirt with men (and him) all the time.

8O
Not aware of that either.



I wonder if this has to do with inappropriate behavior or body language which is common in people with ASDs. People do tend to misread us. But if you are with another person who isn't good at reading body language, they could be the ones misreading you and you aren't doing anything to make them misread you.

I suppose it depends how good the psychiatrist is. If a therapist told me that, I'd ask for specific examples of what they'd seen. It's more worrying than useful to just hear that I'm doing something very significant but have no way of knowing I was doing it. Did he say if he thought it was just "normal, minor and acceptable" or did he think something serious was going on that you might want to take control of?

I wish somebody would watch me with the opposite sex like that. I don't think I flirt with them - I probably have what you might call a warm, chirpy, familiar interpersonal style sometimes but none of it is reserved for women.........and it's plain jokey rather than sexual innuendo, I don't go touching them apart from the odd hug when it's socially appropriate, I've no idea what my eye contact is doing, I try to look but not for too long. But really you'd be hard pushed to know if I were talking to a man or a woman, if you couldn't see them.



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29 Jun 2012, 1:11 pm

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Heather Kuzmich is a model with Aspergers.

This quote from uncyclopedia pretty much sums it up.

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Subject to nutritional circumstances (Spergensis is notorioussly anemic and effected by ambient chemicals in the environment and diet during formative developement). Spergensis high in testosterone are especially upright and handsome (though somewhat metrosexual) creatures known for their leadership tendencies and occasional meglomania. Still asocial, but is promptly excused as simply being a rugged and even heroic "individualist" who is above the mundane interests of the uneducated rabble (See Keanu Reeves or any Tim Burton or Robert A. Heinlein protagonist)
↑ At least not contemporary gender stereotypes, particularly healthy Spergensis tend to exhibit Chivalrous/Bushido type patterns of behavior; see Renaissance fairs.
↑ See above reference to health and diet, this phenomena may be related to father's lifestyle).


I believe that quote is entirely true.



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29 Jun 2012, 2:20 pm

Yes



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29 Jun 2012, 2:43 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Issit wrote:
My therapist (psychiatrist) told me once I flirt with men (and him) all the time.

8O
Not aware of that either.



I wonder if this has to do with inappropriate behavior or body language which is common in people with ASDs. People do tend to misread us. But if you are with another person who isn't good at reading body language, they could be the ones misreading you and you aren't doing anything to make them misread you.

I suppose it depends how good the psychiatrist is. If a therapist told me that, I'd ask for specific examples of what they'd seen. It's more worrying than useful to just hear that I'm doing something very significant but have no way of knowing I was doing it. Did he say if he thought it was just "normal, minor and acceptable" or did he think something serious was going on that you might want to take control of?

I wish somebody would watch me with the opposite sex like that. I don't think I flirt with them - I probably have what you might call a warm, chirpy, familiar interpersonal style sometimes but none of it is reserved for women.........and it's plain jokey rather than sexual innuendo, I don't go touching them apart from the odd hug when it's socially appropriate, I've no idea what my eye contact is doing, I try to look but not for too long. But really you'd be hard pushed to know if I were talking to a man or a woman, if you couldn't see them.


Ah, no, he did not go into any detail.
And I guess I was at the time moment too confused to ask
I was also 21, very young and very messed up.



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29 Jun 2012, 3:54 pm

Maybe not sexy in the way I normally see that word

But I guess when you look at it like this

ooo wrote:
Toddster wrote:
“Feeling at ease” with someone is an attractive quality


Yep.


Then I imagine it could be.


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29 Jun 2012, 4:16 pm

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Ah, no, he did not go into any detail.
And I guess I was at the time moment too confused to ask
I was also 21, very young and very messed up.

I doubt if I'd have thought to ask for details myself at that age. Even now it can be a shock if somebody describes my personality to me, and it can be years before I get any more info on it.

There was one thing I did years ago, before I was diagnosed, that made me wonder. I was working a lot with this lady who I liked, but had consciously decided not to pursue a relationship with her. So I had no conscious agenda. Anyway, one day I noticed this kind of pose I'd gone into, she'd just arrived and we were talking, I was standing in front of a waist-high worktop, facing her, and I'd leaned back and adopted a very cool, comfy posture, it's hard to describe without a drawing, but I think I've seen groups of guys doing that when there's a group of girls around. It must be down in somebody's book of flirty body language somewhere, and I think it means it's possible to have Aspergers without losing all the primitive reflex signals. Don't know how typical that is. It bothers me that the signal I seem to have been sending was independent of my conscious control and (what I thought were) my intentions.



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29 Jun 2012, 4:23 pm

Issit wrote:
My therapist (psychiatrist) told me once I flirt with men (and him) all the time.

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Not aware of that either.


Omg me too. (Not with a psychiatrist though, boss and co-workers usually) I don't get it. :o



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29 Jun 2012, 4:24 pm

singularity wrote:
outofplace wrote:
Find me another aspie who is a female, not obese, and has similar quirks to mine and I would find her VERY attractive-especially if she is short, thin and has no fashion sense and wears no makeup.


Damn that height requirement! I'm almost sexy! :)


Is 5'4" short enough? Oh wait, I'm married....