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14 Jul 2012, 12:39 pm

Nowadays, most office work can be done in half the time of the normal work day anyway. The 8-9 hours in the office acts like school does - baby-sitting your thoughts, a tool for control of the masses. As long as employees are holding meaningless conversations half the day, it's harmless. I loooove "wasting" time gossiping with colleagues, problem is no one wants to gossip with misfit me, so I'm bored a lot.


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14 Jul 2012, 2:38 pm

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I'm the exact same way! If they want to talk about subjects not related to work, they need to do so off "company time." It's amazing, the amount of productivity that's lost due to employees being on social networking sites, humor pages and just chattering.


Allowing employees to do these things makes them more productive.


It's when the employees spend the entire day messing around. That is what I am talking about. On the lunch break is fine, but not for the entire shift. I interned at a correctional facility and the COs were looking up videos of drunk people doing moronic things all the while neglecting to conduct their 10-minute checks on inmates in the Med Obs cells. How's that productive?



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14 Jul 2012, 2:44 pm

CyborgUprising wrote:
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I'm the exact same way! If they want to talk about subjects not related to work, they need to do so off "company time." It's amazing, the amount of productivity that's lost due to employees being on social networking sites, humor pages and just chattering.


Allowing employees to do these things makes them more productive.


It's when the employees spend the entire day messing around. That is what I am talking about. On the lunch break is fine, but not for the entire shift.


I can understand that if you are in the service industry, or working in teams, keeping the good vibes flowing between people can make them perform better at their job. That's my issue right now with my workplace.



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14 Jul 2012, 3:10 pm

That's very true. However, the only effective way to achieve true good vibes is to have a healthy corporate environment where bullies and cheaters and lazies are not the ones promoted to management and harrassers, backstabbers and poisonous tongues are not rewarded for defeating better employees who are less manipulative. The chitchat is a game - employers reward it, so employees engage in it to be seen as team players. Everyone is pretending and no one says the emperor is nude. I used to work at a place where two women were constantly competing and backstabbing each other, but each time someone from Management was around, they'd be all over each other with hugs and kisses to be seen as good team players between them.


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14 Jul 2012, 3:17 pm

I have been called everything from stuck-up to a suck-up because I'd rather stay at my desk at lunch. That's one of the things that bug me about NT's. I go everywhere by myself and get strange looks, like, "Why's she out alone? Is she weird? Is she a hooker?" What's so bad about being out alone? I mean, aside from the obvious--danger from criminals and stuff like that.



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15 Jul 2012, 6:06 am

CyborgUprising wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
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I'm the exact same way! If they want to talk about subjects not related to work, they need to do so off "company time." It's amazing, the amount of productivity that's lost due to employees being on social networking sites, humor pages and just chattering.


Allowing employees to do these things makes them more productive.


It's when the employees spend the entire day messing around. That is what I am talking about. On the lunch break is fine, but not for the entire shift. I interned at a correctional facility and the COs were looking up videos of drunk people doing moronic things all the while neglecting to conduct their 10-minute checks on inmates in the Med Obs cells. How's that productive?


Oh, yeah, definitely. Spending the whole day screwing around is rubbish and a waste of time and money. And what you described goes beyond wasting time and money and straight into criminal irresponsibility. No argument.



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15 Jul 2012, 6:13 am

Same here. I work by myself for the most part (with the assistance of headphones, which seems to help keep people away). But I am sometimes paired with another guy who is very chatty. By the end of the day I feel like if he shows me another "clever" comment he left on someone's facebook page, I might have to punch him in the throat.


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15 Jul 2012, 6:21 am

In the only jobs I had I didn't really have coworkers or have to socialize.

I'd rather not socialize at work. It would remind me too much of school where you are forced to be around and interact with a bunch of people you have nothing in common with even if they hate you or you hate them. School was so bad for me that I skipped to the point of having to go to family court and got sent away multiple times.

Actually in the second job right before I quit there were other people around and my routine got changed which led to my quitting.



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15 Jul 2012, 7:36 am

SoloDolo, I liked what you said. So true---about chatty types. But your comment made me chuckle. Glad you said that.



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15 Jul 2012, 8:20 am

I had my ideal job but was given notice as 'you are an excellent scientist but you don't fit in the group dynamic we're trying to create'

As a bloke I found the easiest way was to devote 30 min a day reading the sports pages for football data. Then actually initiate conversation with 'did you catch the game last night...' or for women (and some men) cook books 'I found this recipe, was good but couldn't get it quite right .... and let them prattle on making the odd comment" works also every one likes to help people and open questions work quite well.

Overall found 10 min acting a day worked, they feel your making an effort and can make some good friends as they get to know you, the hard part is resisting the urge to head butt them sometimes. Especially the kid chatter, and inane Facebook posts...


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15 Jul 2012, 8:32 am

I actually enjoy conversing at work, since I volunteer with disabled people (disabilities is my special interest). If I get bored I can turn the topic to our work and enjoy it. Or start talking about my autism. The one problem is I find it hard to shift from having a conversation to doing my work quickly, so I'm more productive if I keep conversations with other workers/volunteers to a minimum. (Conversations with participants, on the other hand, improve my productivity because they help create an enjoyable experience for the participant. There's this one AS girl in the program and me and her have had some really bizarre conversations about internet memes - for example when I told her that my mole was actually a benign tumor, and started singing 'I'm a tumor, I'm a tumor' with her.)



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15 Jul 2012, 1:59 pm

No not at all infact your there to do the job to me small talk is irrelevant.



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15 Jul 2012, 2:04 pm

Just tell them you have Aspergers and/or that you are a friendly cyborg and they will accept it



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15 Jul 2012, 2:59 pm

I have this problem too. Worst thing is, they put me in an office with two other people. But yeah, I try to join in some of the conversations, but most of my time I am in my office doing work. As long as I am not distracted by sounds from the other people in my office, that is. Luckily I am being told by my bosses that I am doing very well and that it doesn't matter too much that I am not talking as much as the others. So I guess it's not that bad for me. I still feel that the others see me as a bit weird, though. Since I don't like wasting time chatting.

I think I might have to ask if I can get another, private, office soon though...