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27 Nov 2006, 3:18 pm

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- my tendency to spell things in British style because it's more "authentic". Also, if I know how a word is pronounced in its mother tongue, I tend to do that. ("Moscow" is "Moskva" in Russian.)

Same goes for me. I also love academic looking words that only intellectuals understand because it makes me seem more intelligent and thus, supreme to the individual I'm talking to.
It's not an uncontrollabe AS trait(in my case) but I like it, so why change?



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27 Nov 2006, 3:43 pm

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I was wondering about it because I'm reading Temple Grandin's Animals in Translation and she talks about how autistic emotion is similar to animal emotion.

I'm reading that at the moment! :D


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27 Nov 2006, 8:04 pm

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I was wondering about it because I'm reading Temple Grandin's Animals in Translation and she talks about how autistic emotion is similar to animal emotion.


In my opinion, all emotion is like animal emotion. Because we are animals.

I get very pedantic about using English words but that is because I grew up in Australia and we don't speak US English there. Or here, which is New Zealand. But I get especially fussy about -- for example -- when others talk about "people and animals" like they are so separate.

A basic syllogism. We are alive. We are multi-cellular organisms. We are not plants. Therefore we are animals.

Also when people talk about apes but they don't include humans in that group, because humans are apes. (This could turn into a rave. But I'll stop now.)


THANK you!! ! someone else who thinks that!


I second this. Animal, vegetable, or mineral? It's not that hard to figure out where to put people in there!



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27 Nov 2006, 11:39 pm

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-- my tendency to spell things in British style because it's more "authentic".


O.K. I do the british spelling thingy as well. I esp like adding the u. No idea why ut, I've done his since grade school.


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28 Nov 2006, 12:02 am

when I write for myself, I abreviate and remove vowels whenever possible. fr instnc, rght thr I can gt rd of som vwls and you can stl tel what Im atmptng to say



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28 Nov 2006, 12:09 am

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I also love academic looking words that only intellectuals understand because it makes me seem more intelligent and thus, supreme to the individual I'm talking to.


Really? I use the "five-dollar words" because... well, because they're available, and they are in fact more specific than their simpler alternatives. Some people think I'm being pedantic, but I'm just using what seems to be the right word for the moment.

It totally baffles me that people find this to be inappropriate, particularly when most of the time, they do know the word I'm using. If I wanted to seem smarter than someone, wouldn't I use a word they DIDN'T know, rather than one they did know but (for some reason unfathomable to me) consider unacceptable.

The culture of stupidity depresses me.


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28 Nov 2006, 2:43 am

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The culture of stupidity depresses me.


I'm not sure if I get it right here. Do you frown upon me for my usage of academic words or was that directed towards the opposite?

I couldn't care less for the ways other people chose their words, this way of speaking/writing comes naturally to me.
I think that in my sub-conciousness, I do it to impress. But I am seldom aware of it. It has just grown to be part of my personality, which detaches me from "the rest".
However, I do actively try to be different for the sake of it. I never liked the sheepflock mentality that NTs propagate. I'll always strive to be as unique as possible in all areas that make up my personality.



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28 Nov 2006, 4:01 am

Yes, I too tend to use the British standard of spelling when I can and I am aware of the British spelling. I deplore the dumbing-down of language.

I too often refer to places as it is pronounced in said area. For example, I often refer to Japan as Nippon, Florence and Florenza, Germany as Deutschland, etc.

Also, I hate colloquial names. For example, I get peeved when the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is referred to as 'North Korea'. The proper short-hand term should be it's initials, DPRK. Likewise, the Republic of Korea should be referred to as ROK and NOT as 'South Korea'. Both halves of the peninsula regards itself as the legal and legitimate government of the Korean people and the other as an illegal entity and, in essence, occupied territory.

Another instance of this are the defunct two nations comprising Germany. "West Germany" was the Federal Republic of Germany (or Bundesrepublik Deutschland in German). "East Germany" was indeed the German Democratic Republic (or Deutsche Democratik Republik in Germany). It pisses me off at the sloppy geopolitical classifications used in the popular culture.

By the way, I DO know that Korea, in Korean, is Chosun and my German spellings above might contain spelling errors. Please accept my apologies in this regard.

On point two from the original poster, no, I do not chew on people.

Hope this helps :)



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28 Nov 2006, 4:20 am

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I'm not sure if I get it right here. Do you frown upon me for my usage of academic words or was that directed towards the opposite?


That was directed towards the people that object to using the precise phrasing because it's too intelligent.

When I was in High School, there was a particularly ditzy blonde cheerleader in one of my classes. When I shared a class with her the next year-- with one of my favorite teachers in history-- I was very confused, because both classes were Advanced English. I once commented to the teacher (in private) that I didn't understand how such a bloody space cadet was in the Advanced English class, and she grinned and told me that the girl in question was probably one of the smartest students in the class, but played stupid because it was socially disadvantageous to be seen as too intelligent.

A while later, I got partnered with her in a class project and realised that she was not only intelligent, but was at least as smart as I was, possibly smarter. (And when you account for my ego, that's quite an admission.)

This I have never understood.

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However, I do actively try to be different for the sake of it. I never liked the sheepflock mentality that NTs propagate. I'll always strive to be as unique as possible in all areas that make up my personality.


I've never liked that mentality, either, although not all NTs subscribe to it. However, as I've gotten older, I've realised that I do not have to strive to be unique, or "different for the sake of it." I'm just me, which is unique enough.


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28 Nov 2006, 4:28 am

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I was thinking of things to add to the "You might be an aspie..." thread (which so rocks) and realised that I didn't know for sure that some things are aspie traits.

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-- my tendency to spell things in British style because it's more "authentic". Also, if I know how a word is pronounced in its mother tongue, I tend to do that. ("Moscow" is "Moskva" in Russian.)

-- my tendency to show affection by chewing on people.


Ohh I do that too, in fact I have since I was very young. I even remember teachers marking these things as "spelling errors" on my papers, and taking points off :(


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28 Nov 2006, 4:52 am

I am reminded of Anathema Device in Good Omens, who as a child was upbraided for her spelling, which was not so much inaccurate as four hundred years out of date.


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28 Nov 2006, 6:28 am

Catalyst wrote:
Revenant wrote:
I also love academic looking words that only intellectuals understand because it makes me seem more intelligent and thus, supreme to the individual I'm talking to.


Really? I use the "five-dollar words" because... well, because they're available, and they are in fact more specific than their simpler alternatives. Some people think I'm being pedantic, but I'm just using what seems to be the right word for the moment.

It totally baffles me that people find this to be inappropriate, particularly when most of the time, they do know the word I'm using. If I wanted to seem smarter than someone, wouldn't I use a word they DIDN'T know, rather than one they did know but (for some reason unfathomable to me) consider unacceptable.

The culture of stupidity depresses me.

Totally!! !
I use long words because I know them and they come to mind when I need them! I find myself trying not to do this because of the funny reactions I get, but I think I'm going to stop trying and just do what comes naturally. It actually takes me longer to think of the shorter, simpler words. BTW, is this hyperlexia?


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28 Nov 2006, 2:16 pm

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In my opinion, all emotion is like animal emotion. Because we are animals.


At first glance, and simplistically, this is true (that humans are animals.) The correlations Dr. Grandin makes in her book are more about the significant differences that *are* present between humans (specifically neurotypical humans) and animals (specifically other land mammals.) Without bullet pointing a significant portion of the book, the main divergences come from differences in frontal lobe function and how we (NT) humans process "emotion" in a cognitive fashion, which is not done in the same way that other land mammals do. She makes a convincing case that autistic humans share a lot more in common with land mammals in terms of how frontal lobe activity and cognition affect reactions, thinking, and other activities. It's pretty fascinating stuff, any way you look at it.


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28 Nov 2006, 2:40 pm

scrulie wrote:
Catalyst wrote:
Revenant wrote:
I also love academic looking words that only intellectuals understand because it makes me seem more intelligent and thus, supreme to the individual I'm talking to.


Really? I use the "five-dollar words" because... well, because they're available, and they are in fact more specific than their simpler alternatives. Some people think I'm being pedantic, but I'm just using what seems to be the right word for the moment.

It totally baffles me that people find this to be inappropriate, particularly when most of the time, they do know the word I'm using. If I wanted to seem smarter than someone, wouldn't I use a word they DIDN'T know, rather than one they did know but (for some reason unfathomable to me) consider unacceptable.

The culture of stupidity depresses me.

Totally!! !
I use long words because I know them and they come to mind when I need them! I find myself trying not to do this because of the funny reactions I get, but I think I'm going to stop trying and just do what comes naturally. It actually takes me longer to think of the shorter, simpler words. BTW, is this hyperlexia?


That's how it is with me too. People who know me have learned to put up with it.


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28 Nov 2006, 3:55 pm

Part of it is, part of it's not.


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28 Nov 2006, 5:09 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
Part of it is, part of it's not.

OK! Could you expand please? :D


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