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Verdandi
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25 Jul 2012, 4:23 am

I don't think I've become worse due to WP. I mean, I did have more intense behaviors/etc. while I was trying to find out if I was autistic. However, I was also going through daily sensory overload to the point of burnout for a few months (November 2010-January 2011), and it took another seven months before I felt like I had started to recover some of what I'd lost due to that. It is hard for me to separate anything I might have started doing because I read about it from things that I started doing because I was constantly overloaded.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:21 am

Apparently I'm guilty of it too.
I've been told the same thing and as others here have mentioned, there is something to it.
I didn't notice until I was told though but when I was told, I was a little shocked, but I just tried harder to make everyone's life easier.
I like the "pull our socks up" comment. :)



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25 Jul 2012, 5:44 am

I used to go to a board devoted to schizoids, for much the same reason I've been coming here. To learn about stuff and exchange notes. I let everything wash over me and try to absorb stuff that only feels *right*. But I don't spend most of my internet time hanging out on "weird people" boards. There becomes a point when the conversations become exercises in self-absorbed navel-gazing. I don't see it here, but I've been places where people play the oneupsmanship game of weirder-than-thou. "I haven't left my parent's basement or changed my underwear in two weeks!" "Oh yeah? It's been a month for me, plus I am sitting in a pool of my own filth!" It gets old. Some people are almost certainly lying. And even if they are telling the truth, hearing such accounts don't help one improve as a person.

These places also become echo chambers. Being validated is good, but sometimes hearing differing opinions and perspectives makes you realize certain things about yourself. I'm pretty sure if I took a random thread topic from this forum and posted it to a "NT" board (let's say, something like "What are your stims?"), there would be people posting about their habits. I think in an echo chamber, you don't see how similar you are to people on the "outside" and it reenforces a feeling of "difference".

I don't know about becoming worse. But I can see how making WP your number one "hang out" place could be not the best thing in the world, especially if you are impressionable.



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25 Jul 2012, 5:53 am

autotelica wrote:
I used to go to a board devoted to schizoids, for much the same reason I've been coming here. To learn about stuff and exchange notes. I let everything wash over me and try to absorb stuff that only feels *right*. But I don't spend most of my internet time hanging out on "weird people" boards. There becomes a point when the conversations become exercises in self-absorbed navel-gazing. I don't see it here, but I've been places where people play the oneupsmanship game of weirder-than-thou. "I haven't left my parent's basement or changed my underwear in two weeks!" "Oh yeah? It's been a month for me, plus I am sitting in a pool of my own filth!" It gets old. Some people are almost certainly lying. And even if they are telling the truth, hearing such accounts don't help one improve as a person.

These places also become echo chambers. Being validated is good, but sometimes hearing differing opinions and perspectives makes you realize certain things about yourself. I'm pretty sure if I took a random thread topic from this forum and posted it to a "NT" board (let's say, something like "What are your stims?"), there would be people posting about their habits. I think in an echo chamber, you don't see how similar you are to people on the "outside" and it reenforces a feeling of "difference".

I don't know about becoming worse. But I can see how making WP your number one "hang out" place could be not the best thing in the world, especially if you are impressionable.


All of that is what I wanted to say here in response.^



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25 Jul 2012, 5:57 am

All of that is what I wanted to say here in response.^

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25 Jul 2012, 7:31 am

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Many times, people who start obsessively researching it pick up some of the traits they may not have otherwise had purely for psychosomatic reasons.


This certainly can and does happen, but I think part of the issue is that people generally have tried 200% to fit in and suppress everything they'd normally do (things like faking interest in smalltalk, engaging in social situations that stress you out, mimicing NT mannerisms etc. etc.). Once I found out what the problem was I was heavily advised to not push my boundaries all the time, and thus am taking more time for myself and don't invest more energy than I can muster into socializing. People around me may find me acting more autistic, but really what they are seeing is a bit more of my true self. And that is a good thing all around.

People complaining about you not overextending yourself 24/7 should do a reality check!
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25 Jul 2012, 9:52 am

This is a very interesting and timely thread for me.

I am the mother of a 13 yr old AS girl and have come to WP over the past few years to read so I can understand and help her better.
She has only just recently discovered a special interest website (art) that has a social media type of format (messaging, friending, watching, and blog function). After laying down some ground rules for safety because she is very inexperienced and naive (information sharing, etc), she was off and running with it. Anyway, long story short...I have been popping onto her site to check on her and discovered she had put a blog post about wondering if she was crazy or perverted for having alot of sexual thoughts (my description is the short sanitized version). I called her and calmly told her to go delete it immediately, that it was not appropriate for that website because it was an art website and more importantly one of the members she just recently met and will be in 9th grade with her come Sept. and does she really want all her classmates to know her deeply personal feelings!!
So anyway, I thought I'd try to get her involved here where she can anonymously get feedback from others on any topic she wishes. But I am a little afraid of her becoming resistant to my help and over-identifying with her AS – after all she is first HERSELF, a person – not a diagnosis. She is also at a very impressionable stage and I see her sometimes spouting things that she has just heard from someone else – just trying things on for size, I expect.

Anyway, I would hate to see her retreat from trying her best to learn about this very perplexing social world we live in….I’d hate to see her develop the idea AS is WHO SHE IS. But I’d really like her to have a safe venue for connecting with others on issues (as above) that concern her.

Any comments appreciated – I am a thoughtful audience.



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25 Jul 2012, 10:26 am

After 33 years acting like. an NT (everyone I meet/know (normal would be pushing reality a bit) I'm pretty stuck in my ways but was worried that I'm picking up traits but I'm noticing ones that were already there. I've even lear ed coping stratagies that are better than my old ones. At least here I can ask questions and let out the inner aspie that I can't do so much normally.

People have told me I appear a lot less stressed, for the first time for years I can be 'me' around people and there like me 8)



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25 Jul 2012, 10:38 am

WP has enabled me to become a better person, by far. :)
i recommend it highly :bounce:



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25 Jul 2012, 1:01 pm

This is the only site I can be me ( except for sites relating to my hobbies as a Reef Aquarist, Backyard Astronomer, Roswell & UFO crash info. In other words Special intrests!). I can talk here FINALLY about stuff too weird for NTs or family members.
Feels great! But I can see a parent being alarmed that we express our true selves here. She may not be ready for it. I for one, too not tell family about this site. They can use my facebook page if they so desire.

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25 Jul 2012, 1:44 pm

Kenjitsuka wrote:
outofplace wrote:
Many times, people who start obsessively researching it pick up some of the traits they may not have otherwise had purely for psychosomatic reasons.


This certainly can and does happen, but I think part of the issue is that people generally have tried 200% to fit in and suppress everything they'd normally do (things like faking interest in smalltalk, engaging in social situations that stress you out, mimicing NT mannerisms etc. etc.). Once I found out what the problem was I was heavily advised to not push my boundaries all the time, and thus am taking more time for myself and don't invest more energy than I can muster into socializing. People around me may find me acting more autistic, but really what they are seeing is a bit more of my true self. And that is a good thing all around.

People complaining about you not overextending yourself 24/7 should do a reality check!
You live for yourself, not for others!! !


I can certainly agree with you here. Reducing the amount of things I try to do is one of the things I have started doing in order to reduce my stress to a more manageable level.


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25 Jul 2012, 2:40 pm

Matt62 wrote:
This is the only site I can be me ( except for sites relating to my hobbies as a Reef Aquarist, Backyard Astronomer, Roswell & UFO crash info. In other words Special intrests!). I can talk here FINALLY about stuff too weird for NTs or family members.
Feels great! But I can see a parent being alarmed that we express our true selves here. She may not be ready for it. I for one, too not tell family about this site. They can use my facebook page if they so desire.

Sincerely,
Matthew


Thanks for your reply.
I'm not at all alarmed about folk freely expressing themselves (don't find it too weird at all) and want this for her too.
But you hit the nail on the head - I'm wondering if she is ready for it emotionally because she is on the younger side. I see alot of good feedback in most threads, intermixed with some not so good stuff ie. the us vs them kind of stuff, AS vs. NT sentiments...and I worry that she may not have the maturity to tell good advise from bad.

On the other hand, she is very socially isolated and is obviously having thoughts and feelings that she is uncomfortable bringing up with me. This seems to me to be a more harmful predicament to be in...

Have to think on it.

To the OP - Sorry, for hijacking!! It was just what I was thinking about when I spotted your thread.



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25 Jul 2012, 2:45 pm

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According to my mother. In her eyes I just use what I learn here to rationalize being selfish and unreliable. When I said it is a spectrum after she mentioned someone else having traits she said 'how do you know those other people have Aspergers'? I said they'd sure have to go through a lot of trouble to fake something like this, she then trotted out the tired old statement about the bad stuff people do when they pretend to be something else online. So there's that, and there was her favorite arrow to the head about me purposely having angry facial expressions. She knows I can smile when I want to smile, therefore I'm being very 1-sided since I started reading about AS, then I don't talk to anyone enough (when the TV and radio aren't playing, nobody's on Barfbook, or talking on the phone, or gone out, AND Venus is in retrograde) , not that I can really trust my heart with anything I tell them . What IS it with this (metaphorical) mirror that people don't comprehend they're looking right into?

How good was it for YOU to be told you've gotten 'worse' since you found WP?


Been there gotten the t-shirt and it stinks. Best thing I found to do was not talk to anyone I live with about it.

I heard a saying "if beauty is in the eye of the beholder (that something is as good as you think it is) then I am a reflection of you" What I understand is that this means that whatever agnst they are directing over what they perceive of you is more so their problem than yours.



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25 Jul 2012, 3:01 pm

My Dad keeps asking me about that Facebook job thing I'm doing. I've told him several times it's nothing to do with Facebook and I'm taking a break from it anyway. It goes totally over his head, not a clue. He hears about Facebook on the news, etc and knows it causes problems for some people and thinks I'm at risk of this. I actually think he thinks Facebook is the internet.


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25 Jul 2012, 3:13 pm

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Who are those 4 guys in your avatar? Sweet? Quicksilver Messenger Service? Blue Cheer?


One looks like a woman to me. LOL



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25 Jul 2012, 4:03 pm

To be honest I've found that I use this website way too much and it actually starts getting to my head that I have AS. My psychiatrist told me that I probably have mild AS. Honestly, I think I have more potential than I give myself credit for and I think that when I spend too much time on WP I get it in my head that I'll never be able to do this or that. I don't think this website is bad nor will I stop using it but I'm going to try spending less time on it because I find that I'm more proactive and more confident when I'm not on as much. With that being said, if I have a problem that I think a neurotypical person wont understand I'll be sure to come here. I still plan to come and spend time on Wrong Planet, just not make it my whole life so I obsess so much about AS. I think with college coming up I think I'll not be on the site as often but I'll definitely be by when I feel a need for support and supporting others. Everybody has their moments right? We'll see what happens.