Why do some NTs obsess over celebrities?

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20 Nov 2013, 1:40 pm

I don't understand why anyone would obsess over a "celebrity" unless they have some kind of psychosis problem.My sister and my cousin both read about them constantly,I'm more critical and although I love fashion I get tired of the emphasis on celebrities wearing the clothes to give the designer publicity.The times are really changing and almost anyone can get fame and market themselves and make a lot of money.Take for instance Miranda Kerr,who looks like an alien,is building her "health empire" and calling the paparazzi every day when she goes outside.The more people become associated with her name the better,and they'll look at her products and read her interviews and buy into her.She was recently caught posting photoshopped pictures of herself which I think is pathetic.I don't like her,she really has nothing to offer.
Some "celebrities" that I do think are talented and intelligent are Saoirse Ronan,Tilda Swinton,Juliette Binoche,Laetitia Casta and Elizabeth Olsen.But by no means am I obsessed by them.



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20 Nov 2013, 3:26 pm

yeah! i dislike all this celebrity, socialites, and singing.


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21 Nov 2013, 6:25 am

It does appear to fill some deep-seated need. In recent history it has been expressed as fascination with actors/tresses, musicians and the like. Going back further, high-ranking politicians like Roman emperors were the subject of rather similar adulation.

I think it's probably a step in the healthy direction to admire celebrities of the modern kind rather than politicians.

Similarly, tribal instincts were often expressed in nationalist terms, but in the West have lately been sublimed in adherence to a given sports team. Which, incidents of hooliganism aside, is mostly harmless.

I don't think my occasional obsession with actors, directors or writers has ever been expressed quite as extremely as in the stereotypical NT "fan", but it's certainly existed. Not long ago I was obsessed with Ridley Scott, for example.



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21 Nov 2013, 6:41 am

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They are mindless! Most dont even try to find their own inertests and likes. This is when I like aspergers, I have my own mind and it cares little about what the other minds are doing.


A-freakin'-men to that! At 15 I'd just discovered the music of Fleetwood Mac for the first time. I've listened to it ever since (I'm listening to it now).


I love the early Peter Green fleetwood mac, not so much the later stuff though - too MOR. I also love Pink Floyd and Led zeppelin, but have never felt obliged to wear the t-shirts or have their posters on my wall. I guess i just don't see how memorabilia will enhance my listening pleasure ;)

when I was a teenager it was the Osmonds and the Bay City Rollers NT's over obsessed about (both of whom made me want to puke). I could never see the point of being so obsessed over a musician or actor like that :roll:

My little girl is obsessed with 1 direction at the minute, but at 9 years old I'm not going to say anything about it.


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21 Nov 2013, 8:50 am

I get obsessed with people that are famous, usually its because of what they do, first I get obsessed with a character they play and that can seep across into the actor themselves. sometimes I get obsessed with musicians because of their music, I have been obsessed with one famous mentalist/magician person :D I don't get obsessed with celebrities for no good reason they need to have noticeable talent and passion in what they do, its rarely got anything to do with looks for me, although I do find them attractive but that's only after I get obsessed with them.


I don't see how people can be obsessed with things like one direction because there is honestly no substance, if you like music how can you be interested in one direction they don't even play instruments and they don't write their own songs, and the songs they do have are either bad covers or just really bad songs



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21 Nov 2013, 10:30 am

I don't know. I have never seen the appeal in obsessing over celebrities. I always find it strange when people want to see a movie just because a certain actor or actress is in it. I have had plenty of conversations like this:

Person: Do you want to go watch x movie?

Me: What's it about?

Person: I don't know, but it's got Super Famous Actor in it.

Me: Oh. But you don't know what it's about?

Person: Not really. Maybe something to do with working and a family. Anyway, do you want to see it? I'm sure Super Famous Actor will be great!

Me: Uh... Uh... Maybe?

I always choose movies based on plot and could care less who is in it, so I find it strange that some people care so much about actors that they don't even bother to find out what a movie is about before they run out to watch it.

I also find it odd how people follow celebrities around and take photos of them and do all of this other privacy invading stuff. By acting or singing or whatever, they are just doing their jobs. Why don't people follow around other people for doing their jobs, like janitors and vet techs? It's just weird to me.

I can get very obsessed with certain fictional characters though, so I guess it's kind of the same thing as them obsessing over an actor or musician?



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21 Nov 2013, 12:23 pm

Most people seem to obsess over celebrities, and they get on to you if you don't know a certain celebrity they are talking about, and some even laugh at you, making you feel like you've been living under a rock all your life. My new expression for that is ''I could not give a f**k''.

I know a 9-year-old girl who is absolutely crazy about One Direction. She's collecting everything to do with it. She has a One Direction schoolbag, a One Direction picture mirror, a One Direction pen set, One Direction bed sheets, One Direction curtains, and practically anything else you can think of! That goes to show that NTs get obsessions too!

I suppose I went through the exact thing when I was 9, except it was South Park. :)


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21 Nov 2013, 4:09 pm

Quill wrote:
I don't know. I have never seen the appeal in obsessing over celebrities. I always find it strange when people want to see a movie just because a certain actor or actress is in it. I have had plenty of conversations like this:

Person: Do you want to go watch x movie?

Me: What's it about?

Person: I don't know, but it's got Super Famous Actor in it.

Me: Oh. But you don't know what it's about?

Person: Not really. Maybe something to do with working and a family. Anyway, do you want to see it? I'm sure Super Famous Actor will be great!

Me: Uh... Uh... Maybe?

I always choose movies based on plot and could care less who is in it, so I find it strange that some people care so much about actors that they don't even bother to find out what a movie is about before they run out to watch it.

Yeah that drives me crazy too! Half the time I'll go and see a film and still don't know the names of the actors afterwards - all I care about is how good the film/story was. If anything its the name of the director (or the derived author) that draws me in more thanks any actor :lol:


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21 Nov 2013, 4:47 pm

I used to obsess about celebrities, mainly musicians (although I did daydream about some actors). It was because my sister did, and I wanted to be like her, as she is the one who got affection from our parents. Plus, I wasn't allowed to indulge in my own interests, but I could piggyback on my sister's interests.

I remember one obsession was Boy George. I used to daydream he would come and fall in love with me and he'd whisk me away from my terrible home. And I insisted that he wasn't gay despite how hard everyone laughed at me, because in magazine interviews he said he wasn't, and that he really was "asexual" as he said. At age 11, I "text-book" understood what gay and asexual were, I just took him at his word that he wasn't gay. Now (30 years later) in retrospect I realize why everyone laughed at me.



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22 Nov 2013, 4:00 am

I find the apparently shallow nature of celebrity obession to be irritating as well; all those tabloid magazines with headlines like, "Famous Person is getting married/divorced/having a baby/fighting with somebody", they're all the same and I just don't understand why anyone would be interested in reading about those aspects of peoples' lives. They wouldn't care if the person wasn't famous, why does an important name suddenly make mundane life events fascinating for people to read about?


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22 Nov 2013, 9:58 am

I think everyone has some obsessions. Kids tend to focus on certain things and adults focus on other things. Anything you can think of, do a search and you'll find there's a forum for it, where people post hundreds of threads talking about just that. :) Whether the obsession is weird or not is totally subjective. For example, do you think obsessing over pocket knife is strange? No? How about wooden pencils? Entire forums devoted to how to change your baby's diapers? Forums discussing women's reusable menstrual cups? They might seem weird if you're not into it, but totally cool if you are.


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22 Nov 2013, 11:28 am

Probably the same reason both sides obsess over fictional characters.



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22 Nov 2013, 1:09 pm

everything in the social world, is to an extent, a popularity contest. we're familiar with adulation and limerence in the context of high school but we forget that it's endemic in all of society (beyond the paradigmatic hierarchy of adolescence). in the larger macrocosm of society, there are popular people and there are unpopular people. there are nerds; lackies; trouble makers; "emos"; conservative do-gooders; snitches and brown nosers; bullies; jocks and fashionistas ... all of the people we think we escape after completing our compulsory education are there waiting for us in the wide-world-of-post graduation. celebrities are just one form of extreme societal titan we see in this larger world — the analogue of the highschool "it crowd". these are the people everybody loves and glorifies and perseverates on (sometimes for their talent or humor, sometimes for reasons no more substantial than how they look in a pair of designer shoes). i'm not sure i understand it myself but it appears, no matter where we are, certain people will be given a seemingly arbitrary social supremacy — a kind of dominance, if you will. and then everyone else will proceed to grovel beneath them like ants celebrating their queen :/ 

maybe there's a bit of immunity to this if you're autistic (unless a celebrity happens to be your S.E.) because you're less invested in social norms. 



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29 Nov 2013, 11:07 am

grahamguitarman wrote:
Quill wrote:
I don't know. I have never seen the appeal in obsessing over celebrities. I always find it strange when people want to see a movie just because a certain actor or actress is in it. I have had plenty of conversations like this:

Person: Do you want to go watch x movie?

Me: What's it about?

Person: I don't know, but it's got Super Famous Actor in it.

Me: Oh. But you don't know what it's about?

Person: Not really. Maybe something to do with working and a family. Anyway, do you want to see it? I'm sure Super Famous Actor will be great!

Me: Uh... Uh... Maybe?

I always choose movies based on plot and could care less who is in it, so I find it strange that some people care so much about actors that they don't even bother to find out what a movie is about before they run out to watch it.

Yeah that drives me crazy too! Half the time I'll go and see a film and still don't know the names of the actors afterwards - all I care about is how good the film/story was. If anything its the name of the director (or the derived author) that draws me in more thanks any actor :lol:


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