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17 Aug 2012, 7:25 am

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As for confusing black and white thinking for a melt down - I believe it IS the black and white thinking in the control seat taking us to melt down. . I personally have all logic go out the window when I am confused or can't grasp the other persons view.


odd, for me meltdowns are triggered either by sensory overload or unexpected change (or both)
Sometimes I can be very frustrated when a person is trying to give me illogical answers or reasons or if they try to fob off my question and ignore me, that has been known to contribute. I've never had a problem with logical debate, in fact I enjoy it.

I guess triggers are different for everyone

I think you've done an excellent job with the visuals and most of your information is very useful, Congrats! :D



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17 Aug 2012, 10:52 am

thank you :)

I think that is what made making this video very difficult too.. trying to remove the personal elements from it has not been easy. Somehow it always comes back to the "because I am this way - we are all this way too"

I am sorry for missing that bit there. I will def post my next video for feedback here first. I want to be as accurate as I can be.

My biggest issue now is what topic to tackle next... I bounce between what makes going out into public so hard - like grocery shopping.... or meltdowns and what it looks and feels like... stimming.... or or or..... **sigh**

I hate indecision!

I think I get cognitively overloaded easily... you think that could be what triggers my meltdowns?



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17 Aug 2012, 11:17 am

It is quite possible, from what I understand meltdowns are a cumulative stress reaction more than anything else, something that happens when our usual coping mechanisms aren't effective enough in the situation, or when we have been 'bottling up' our emotions too long.

I think even NT's must get something at some points in their lives, why else do some people go on a frustrated shouting/throwing things spree when something bad happens when they are already stressed?

Everyone needs to vent uncontrollably at some point. It's a very lucky person who never experiences the 'red mist'.



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17 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

Good points! Like your terminology too! "red mist" ... would you mind if I use that term in any of my videos if the chance pops up?



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17 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

Its hard for me not to have a meltdown when multiple things go wrong one after another.



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17 Aug 2012, 12:49 pm

Made me cry. :cry:



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17 Aug 2012, 12:56 pm

@ kirayng - Aaaw! Sorry!

@ chris5000 - I can relate to that too. Also if a topic is over my head and takes too much energy to follow along.



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17 Aug 2012, 1:02 pm

Valkyrie2012 wrote:
@ kirayng - Aaaw! Sorry!

@ chris5000 - I can relate to that too. Also if a topic is over my head and takes too much energy to follow along.


No worries, I'm still pretty new to my diagnosis.



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17 Aug 2012, 1:14 pm

Valkyrie2012 wrote:
Good points! Like your terminology too! "red mist" ... would you mind if I use that term in any of my videos if the chance pops up?


It's quite a common term when discussing being taken over emotionally, and not having full control over your actions. However it would be best to use it carefully,
as it can mean directed or undirected lashing out,
anger or frustration, or both.
So it usually has quite violent connotations.
It's often something that people say they experienced before a fight, the 'red mist' takes over and they are too angry to control themselves properly or rationalise their feelings.

It's probably best to look up the phrase if you are unsure, although wiki doesn't seem to have the phrase as it appears in English language, instead it gives lists of comic book characters and horror films. :?

By all means use it, but careful.

ah, this seems like a good description of the term
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/i ... +mist.html

I don't recommend using it as a direct description of meltdowns, as red mist implies anger and can be interpreted as a wish to hurt someone.



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18 Aug 2012, 9:30 pm

I also advise caution. "Seeing red", apparently an alternate phrase for the same thing, is something that can be interpreted as meaning that the person is going to go after someone or be violent in some outwardly directed way. I think it's intended to remind people of bulls and red flags (though I think bulls might actually be color blind and responding to painful or otherwise angering, deliberate provocation instead of mere color). No need to accidentally risk giving the impression that we're just touchy people with a hair trigger. Also, "red mist" can sound very similar to "pink mist", which is, if I understand it correctly, a term for the visual created when a sniper hits a target directly in the head. Not that I think anyone would mistakenly believe you meant that, but I'd only heard of "seeing red" and not the "red mist" before this. So, upon reading those words, even though I wasn't confused about the meaning, "pink mist" sprang into my mind. Not pretty, rather off-putting. But that's just me, I guess. Oh, well.


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19 Aug 2012, 12:26 am

thank you to you both :) enjoyed reading your posts... I will give it some consideration... just off work tonight so not up to any real deep thinking.. but after my work week ends and one "blah" day I am sure to be back at it :)

I really appreciate all the input from everyone. It means a lot!