Um, I'm an aspie that lies . . .

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OP - the fact that you see it as a moral issue and are bothered by it is already not typical of NTs, from what I gather. They see no problem with those "little white lies".

Also: I'm not going to say much about this because it's upsetting me too much, but those of you who are saying "people who say they don't lie, are lying" need to stop. That conventional wisdom BS is not true, no matter how much you might like it to be, and it's very hurtful. As for social repercussions, you're on a board for people with AS, how many here do you think can get through social interactions smoothly? Not everyone is like you, and assuming that is downright toxic.

I am not saying I have never lied in my life, but close to never, and I have no problem believing those who say they never lie, and I have a big problem with people who go around saying "everyone does this or that" and accusing others of lying on that basis. I think it's something people who feel guilty do to feel better about themselves, and it's a nasty attack on the other person/people, whether they realize it or not.

I lie a little too and have done so in the past to avoid trouble. I don't believe that someone doesn't literally lie when they say they don't lie or can't tell a lie. I mean can they not write a story then if they can't lie? Lying is like telling a story and telling a story is like lying except everyone knows it's not true.

I'd be lying if I said I have never lied before or can't lie. When I say I don't lie, I don't mean it literally of course. Also when people say they can't lie, they mean they are not good at it. They can lie literally but when they do lie, people know they are lying or the truth comes out eventually and people find out they were lying. Or it can mean they feel too bad if they lie and hate doing it so they prefer not to do it.

I also have the term accidental lying and I count that as being able to lie or tell a lie. But if someone is literally unable to lie, what if they had to protect an innocent person from being beaten up by a bully, so the person is hiding in your home and their bully comes by and asks you where the victim is. Would you not be able to say you haven't seen him? If you can do that in this situation, then you are able to lie and can tell a lie.

OP, why do you call yourself an Aspie if you weren't diagnosed? That's like saying that there's a cat under my bed without checking whether there's one or not.

Oh well, I'm being too harsh here. I believe the people who say they literally either don't or can't lie. I see no reason not to. It doesn't strike me as impossible and I have great difficulty understanding why so many people insist it is. I lie very rarely and when I have it was always a choice: I could very easily have chosen not to and would then have been someone who does not lie. That doesn't mean I think people who lie are evil: it seems I have a "hang-up" about lying, and I don't find it at all hard to believe that some people have an even stronger inhibition about it that will not allow them ever lie.

Really, though, it strikes me as very wrong how some people on here are making assumptions about everyone else: even though it seems to be what they OP might like to hear, it isn't true. Not everyone lies. All it takes is one example to disprove that, so it's obviously nonsense. The fact that it bugs me so much is probably part of my hang-up about lying, truth, and accuracy, but there you go. Saying that is a bit like telling asexual people that everyone wants sex (with regard to lying, I feel like an asexual person who has maybe had sex a few times and therefore can't get people to believe that they are actually asexual!)

I lie, but I'm usually more sacrcastic than a liar. There's only a select couple of people who can tell when I'm lying too.

Sure, it might mean that when an NT says it, but there are people on this forum who say they literally can't lie and imo we should take their word for it. There is no reason to question them.

I feel I lie MORE than NTs (which doesn't mean to say I am lying right now, I just mean little white lies). I don't believe that NTs are liars. In fact a lot tell the truth. When I'm talking to somebody I'm not too sure I like, and they ask me something what a true answer to will be a ''yes'' and a false answer will be a ''no'', I sometimes just say ''no'' just to get me out of talking too much to them, (that is, if saying ''no'' will also make sense, of course). But I've often seen other people say the true answer and carry on talking, even if they don't like them, and even if saying the non-honest answer will not be rude. For example, if somebody I didn't like very much asked me where I was going, I might say, ''I'm just going home'', even if I was going shopping or going to somebody's house, otherwise they might ask me what I am doing or who I am seeing or something, so I just find lying is a quicker and simpler answer to give, sometimes (depending on the context of the situation).

I'm not sure if this is lying or not, but the other day I dropped something wet and sticky on the floor while my mum was in the same room, and while she was busy doing something, I quickly picked it up, threw it in the bin, wiped a cloth over where I dropped it to clear it up, and threw it into the washing-machine, and my mum never knew that I had dropped it and cleaned it up without her even noticing. Also I had left something out of the fridge when I was trying to look for something else that had been pushed to the back, and I forgot to put back the item that I took out, and when my mum came in and found it about an hour later, she asked who left it out of the fridge and I said, ''that was not me,'' in such a convincing voice that she started yelling at my dad and my brother for leaving it out, and I got away scot-free. And this isn't the only time I have ever lied and got away with it.

It is just a words.. It is hard to come up with sudden lies, almost impossible to me, but if I had time to think - it's very easy.

I don't know anyone who hasn't lied.

I also lie, as many have said I think the vast majority of people do. I've known some pretty profoundly disabled (as in mostly non-communicative, low IQ, requiring 24h care) autistic people lie too. They were pretty bad at it admittedly. I'm pretty bad at it most of the time to be honest. For the lie to have a good chance of success then I have to have rehearsed how the conversation will go (I do this a lot anyway) and ALL of the questions which might be asked relating to the topic about which I am lying. If things go pretty much to the script it usually works. If I try to lie to someone who knows me very well then it wont normally work. I have lied to lots of employers and gotten away with it and I used to lie to my teachers about why I hadn't done/didn't have my homework.