Ever thought that you're too weak to be a part of society?

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Quite.

Further, strength/weakness isn't about what we do so much as what we overcome.

I often think that society is too weak to allow me to function in it. As an aspie I regularly witness my opinion or thoughts on the matter at hand to be cast aside without any thought almost sub-consciously as "an erratic aspie thought".

I draw parallel lines between these social interactions and my area of expertise which is physics. Whenever I try to explain something about physics which is a little on the weird side and not readily observable on our size such as superposition or quantum entanglement to people outside of the physics class, it's often thought of as total nonsense because they dont have the required concepts. My reply to this is usually "tough", just because someone non educated in physics can't grasp it, doesn't mean it can overthrow the opinion of thousands of physicists.

I think the same applies when dealing with NT's. Just because they dont have the concept of critical thinking which i believe most aspies use to form opinions, doesn't mean they get to be automatically right for being unable to think in a mind clouded with emotions.

The question we must ask ourselves is the following - what society are we too "weak" to fit in? The present day post-modern liberal western world?

I have been traveling and on visiting different places, I found that I "fitted in" with the different population group compared to say my own home town back in the UK. I think ultimately it depends on the society at general. There are some "NT" societies that do indeed have "aspergerish tendencies" and thus are more easily adaptable to the asperger compared to the society they grew up in back home.

My advice for members would be to find a community or a society that shares their values and beliefs and work towards assisting such a community. I tend to find small, Christian communities usually are the best bet although that is just me personally.

I don't think I am weak.

I think that I have spent my Life trying to work on my weakness in the wrong way and judging myself purely on that, rather than acknowledging my strengths and being happy with them. Instead of acknowledging that I am simply different and not weak, I kept trying to do things the same way as everyone and failed. By learning more about who I am, I can be more accepting and motivated to come up with different ways to achieve the same results.

Knowledge is power. Knowledge about oneSELF is power. We are not the same as NTs. But we can still achieve the goals we wish to achieve - success, achievement, happiness, peace. Maybe we just need to open our minds up to consider different ways for this, and maybe slightly different goals in order to achieve the same feelings.

I mean, what is it you truly want in Life? And how can you - being you, with aaaall your strenghts and differences - get it?

I'm on the fence. While I do share the sentiment of some here that it isn't me, it's a xenophobic, intolerant and largely irrational society that is the cause of the problem, not necessarily the result, I think there is still a fine line there and I am clearly on another plane of intolerance. So it's kind of a mutual problem with me, one where neither side will budge and it's the unstoppable force vs. the immovable object and one of these days who knows, maybe I will cave. But that doesn't mean it will be easy for me, if I do, and so it's not just on me.

"If 50 million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing."

"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society."

I feel it both ways. In my day job I stack shelves, and it feels like I'm operating at the limit of my abilities. Yet then I go home and analyze economics and philosophy problems (while dabbling in a bit of programming and art).

Hmm, I sometimes feel like just taking to my bed and not having to ever go out, but another part of me wants to get out there and meet new people and be employed. Besides, I'm too high-functioning to get free money handed to me, I have to work for money, and I may be on job-seekers now but I still have to actively look for work, attend appointments with the job centre to prove to them that I'm actively seeking employment, and they have now sent me on this stupid thing called seetec, which is in a totally different location to where the job centre is, so I got to travel to this other stupid place every two weeks on a stupid First Group bus what I hate giving my profit to because I hate that particular bus company, and.....anyway enough ranting, but I kind of HAVE TO do all this, I can't get out of it, and so I have no choice but to have to be part of society.

But I know what you mean. Sometimes I wish I can just get lost in my films, where my main worry is whether they will finish with a happy ending or not . But life is not as simple as that, when you've got a brain what works OK and so you're made to take part in normal society. And I don't always mind it, but I just don't really like being beholden to other people. If I had an easy job, part time, working with mature friendly people, getting my favourite bus, I will probably be happy, and not feel so weak in being part of society. But, I suppose beggers can't be choosers.

I'm certainly not weak. I do whatever I want to.

Courage and strength come from doing things you are afraid to do, not from simply not being afraid.

Its rediculous to say that we are weaker than anyone else. You may be weak, but it has nothing to do with Aspergers/Autism.
You are weak because you lack any self confidence and you say you are weak.
Everyone has their streangths and weaknesses. I may not always know whats approperiate in social situations, but I have streangths in places where someone who has superior social skills is struggling in.
If your going to put yourself down don't blame it on you ASD.


You're blaming an entire catagory of people for wanting everyone to be like them, yet at the same time, you're the one making prejudice remarks about people who are different than you.
Sounds like you really need to rethink your ideas.

That said, no, I have never felt too weak to fit into society. However I have often felt fed up with society because of how rediculous it can be. Nevertheless I have accepted that I am an alien visiting these wacky humans and try not to be bothered by what I do not understand and also try not to judge them for not understanding what is obvious to me.

Oh, you bet that I've felt that way now and then...I'm just not as aggressive and willing to trample other people to get where I need to be, like everyone else seems to have no problem doing. I'm just not cut out to thrive in such an aggressive, heartless, self - serving society like ours. What I want most of all is to just be able to sort of fade into the background, where no one will notice me and my myriad flaws and defects.

ETA: ....Wait, maybe my problem is not that I'm necessarily "weak," but simply unwilling to stoop to being an a - hole in order to get what I want.

Sure I've thought that, but i try to avoid that considering when I really think about it I see nothing healthy about this society. So maybe its not so much being too weak maybe its a matter of disagreeing with this society. I don't think its 'having aspergers' that causes it because there are plenty of people with aspergers who are fine with society and would love to be a part it.