Matt62 wrote:
It was more hurtful being excluded/not chosen for some team sports/games that I enjoyed (there were not to many of these, but I liked Soccer & Ultimate.). Being the LAST chosen? Meh, my whole school experience!
Sincerely,
Matthew
I had the displeasurable experience of having teammates yell at me to "Just don't do ANYTHING!", while the gym teachers simultaneously yelled at me to "DO something!" Every time I TRIED to participate, I'd mess things up and have everyone pick on me. But every time I DIDN'T participate, I'd get in trouble by the teachers. It was lose-lose regardless, so I couldn't blame kids for not wanting me on their teams- I didn't want to be there, either.
analyser23 wrote:
What causes this with Aspies do you think?
Well, as I said in my first post, I can't shake the idea that the main objective of a game is to win. If I don't feel like I'm winning, then I'm stressing over it (and not having fun.) When I end up losing in the end, I feel like I've failed to do what I was trying to do (while the other person succeeded.) The idea that the game is there just for fun is a lot more abstract than the clear goal of winning. Chances are, we were introduced to games while we were children, well before we could understand that the "point" of an activity could be something that wasn't readily apparent. I mean, the "Win" square is right there! That's where I'm trying to get! Where is the "Have fun" square? There are other ways to have fun, after all. In fact, we may have even had more fun simply setting the board up than we did while playing the game. (I know I had a lot of fun setting a LIFE board up!) The idea that games are simply for winning might have stuck with us since then.
Add on top that NTs tend to get something extra out of the socialization that comes from games. Some of us may enjoy that, too. But then, a lot of us might merely find that it adds extra stress. Maybe it changes based on the situations. Either way, when I think of all that, I'm not all that surprised that many of us can't just "have fun." Of course, this is all my conjecture with no actual research behind it. So, if anyone has any better ideas, please tell!