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04 Dec 2006, 11:42 pm

I also go into the category of having no "common sense." Things that are exceptionally obvious to other people elude me, while at the same time I see things that are plain as day to me and invisible to the rest of the world. But my IQ has been tested variously as between 141 and 187, and I slam-dunked every standardized test in school, usually with hours to spare.

The good news is that this does not mean you are stupid. Look up the personal habits of Einstein and Newton. Or, for that matter, Bill Gates. While I am not going to be one of those people that insists that all three of these people have/had AS, they certainly demonstrate that you can be intelligent in some ways and thick in others.


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05 Dec 2006, 4:31 am

I've always been told I lack common sense and my nickname was thicko. I am intelligent but just lack concentration and focus sometimes.



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05 Dec 2006, 12:06 pm

What I thought of myself as having more 'common sense' wasn't so. It was pointed out to me several times that my sense was more logical than 'common'. Most people would take the route most commonly observed through examples from those around them, and not assess the situation as it presents itself.

I find it very hard to accept general statements even though I do feel that the wisdom of masses can be very effective. Here I am contradicting myself again, but I've always had to remind myself that the way I think is not at all how most people do, which is why people often come to me for advice, and I'm always hesitant to provide any.

I'm confusing myself with literalness. Bah, words are so cumbersome.


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05 Dec 2006, 1:08 pm

I also suck at math. The idea that all aspies are brilliant and science and math is a stereotype in my opinion. I really love problem solving but I don't think I ever really got the language of math.


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05 Dec 2006, 3:59 pm

I've tried to explain my brain(one which i think has AS) to other people like this.

Hold you hand out but only extend your knuckles half way. That's an NT brain. Now fold two fingers into your palm with your other hand, extend two other fingers and voila. Same surface area as a NT brain but better at some things and worse at others.



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05 Dec 2006, 4:56 pm

My strengths have always been in English and History. My all-time worst subject has been math, especially algebra and geometry.


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06 Dec 2006, 1:39 am

blackcat wrote:
a friend in class told me today that i'm stupid, but i'm smart. she compared my mental ability to that of einstine(WOW)but commented that i have no common sense what so ever, and others agreed. then they wanted to know my I.Q.(147 as of 3rd-145 to 148, somewhere around there-)and said that proves her point. can someone explain this theory of hers to me?i dont get it, and when i told her she said"exactly". i am at a loss.SEPRATE QUESTION COMMING UP- also, i heard aspies exel at math and science. i am very good at science, but i am struggling to maintain a low C(72.67)in geometry. dose that mean i cant be an aspie? thank you in atvance for your replys-the furry black one who meows(blackcat)


Hey blackcat, the furry black one who meows is currently sitting in my lap! Hahaha, just thought I'd mention that in honour of your username (Oh, and hello from Tiki who is purring right now and trying to get me to stop typing and pet him)
Oh, and a good friend of mine says the same thing about me. He always says "You're the dumbest smartest person I know" and I have a 144 IQ. Either that, or, "You're the clumsiest person I know" ...Too bad I'm not the clumsiest most graceful person he knows. Then again, if there existed a method of scoring physical grace, I probably wouldn't score very high.



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06 Dec 2006, 1:59 am

One of co-workers told me basically the same thing Im " the dumbiest smart person he
knows." I think it was for a reason routed in ADHD.

1) I started very complex projects and rarely finished them.

It got so bad that my co-worker was becoming emotional upset because of my failures.



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06 Dec 2006, 2:02 am

I've thought about it for a long time, and realized that they just say that we lack common sense as a way of compensating for their jealousy at our intelligence (i'm not going on a AS vs. NT rant here, this is purely about IQ). Just the other day my dad was telling my sister that I have no common sense. An hour later he'd downloaded a 'Disk Cleaner' from an ad on the internet and I had to go fix his computer :roll:. It's not that we lack common sense, it's that we're under more scrutiny. A behavior that would be accepted as normal in other people looks worse when we do it, just because of what we are and how people view us.

Yeah...



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06 Dec 2006, 2:22 am

Seigneur wrote:
Just the other day my dad was telling my sister that I have no common sense. An hour later he'd downloaded a 'Disk Cleaner' from an ad on the internet and I had to go fix his computer :roll:.


:lol:

Seigneur wrote:
It's not that we lack common sense, it's that we're under more scrutiny. A behavior that would be accepted as normal in other people looks worse when we do it, just because of what we are and how people view us.


We are (under more scrutiny)? What makes you say that? I'm just curious...



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06 Dec 2006, 3:02 am

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We are (under more scrutiny)? What makes you say that? I'm just curious...

When people think of you with AS, then everything you do is just confirms that you have AS in their minds. Anything that differs from the norm is acsribed to having AS. Other people will actually try to find more abnormal behaviors you exhibit and pin them onto you.



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06 Dec 2006, 7:31 am

YEAH, that kind of belief has even affected this board! BESIDES, "common sense" may sometimes be in the eye of the beholder.

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06 Dec 2006, 7:43 am

DrowningMedusa wrote:
blackcat wrote:
a friend in class told me today that i'm stupid, but i'm smart. she compared my mental ability to that of einstine(WOW)but commented that i have no common sense what so ever, and others agreed. then they wanted to know my I.Q.(147 as of 3rd-145 to 148, somewhere around there-)and said that proves her point. can someone explain this theory of hers to me?i dont get it, and when i told her she said"exactly". i am at a loss.SEPRATE QUESTION COMMING UP- also, i heard aspies exel at math and science. i am very good at science, but i am struggling to maintain a low C(72.67)in geometry. dose that mean i cant be an aspie? thank you in atvance for your replys-the furry black one who meows(blackcat)


Hey blackcat, the furry black one who meows is currently sitting in my lap! Hahaha, just thought I'd mention that in honour of your username (Oh, and hello from Tiki who is purring right now and trying to get me to stop typing and pet him)
Oh, and a good friend of mine says the same thing about me. He always says "You're the dumbest smartest person I know" and I have a 144 IQ. Either that, or, "You're the clumsiest person I know" ...Too bad I'm not the clumsiest most graceful person he knows. Then again, if there existed a method of scoring physical grace, I probably wouldn't score very high.




haha. :D i get the clumbsy remark all the time. i am the most clumbisest well-balanced person they know(1 friend said i offend logic!)because on my own two feet im constantly tripping and falling, yet i'm really good on a skateboard and anything else with wheels.(hi Tiki!! !)


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06 Dec 2006, 8:53 am

Well, I struggle to avoid ALL obstacles. I have only fallen down like 3 times in the past 15 years. Once because of a broken sidewalk, and twice because of ice.

I can't ride a skateboard though! 8-(

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06 Dec 2006, 9:53 am

Seigneur wrote:
I've thought about it for a long time, and realized that they just say that we lack common sense as a way of compensating for their jealousy at our intelligence...


Well, maybe with you. Me, I gotta admit to my shortcomings. :D


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06 Dec 2006, 10:57 am

blackcat wrote:
DrowningMedusa wrote:
blackcat wrote:
a friend in class told me today that i'm stupid, but i'm smart. she compared my mental ability to that of einstine(WOW)but commented that i have no common sense what so ever, and others agreed. then they wanted to know my I.Q.(147 as of 3rd-145 to 148, somewhere around there-)and said that proves her point. can someone explain this theory of hers to me?i dont get it, and when i told her she said"exactly". i am at a loss.SEPRATE QUESTION COMMING UP- also, i heard aspies exel at math and science. i am very good at science, but i am struggling to maintain a low C(72.67)in geometry. dose that mean i cant be an aspie? thank you in atvance for your replys-the furry black one who meows(blackcat)


Hey blackcat, the furry black one who meows is currently sitting in my lap! Hahaha, just thought I'd mention that in honour of your username (Oh, and hello from Tiki who is purring right now and trying to get me to stop typing and pet him)
Oh, and a good friend of mine says the same thing about me. He always says "You're the dumbest smartest person I know" and I have a 144 IQ. Either that, or, "You're the clumsiest person I know" ...Too bad I'm not the clumsiest most graceful person he knows. Then again, if there existed a method of scoring physical grace, I probably wouldn't score very high.




haha. :D i get the clumbsy remark all the time. i am the most clumbisest well-balanced person they know(1 friend said i offend logic!)because on my own two feet im constantly tripping and falling, yet i'm really good on a skateboard and anything else with wheels.(hi Tiki!! !)


8O Whoa. Because I too am halfway proficient on a skateboard! Do you come from the same planet as me? :lol:
Oh, and do you snowboard as well? That's another thing that I can do without klutziness...