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What's your primary perception function? (What's the second letter of your MBTI personality type?)
Sensing (xSxx) 13%  13%  [ 14 ]
Sensing (xSxx) 16%  16%  [ 17 ]
iNtuition (xNxx) 29%  29%  [ 31 ]
iNtuition (xNxx) 43%  43%  [ 46 ]
Total votes : 108

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18 Oct 2012, 2:09 pm

Maybe it makes more sense (as it focuses more on introverted types):

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Si - How is Sensing experienced when it is turned inward?
The Introverted Sensing mind attends to, enjoys acquiring, and relying upon an internal library of detailed personal knowledge, facts, feelings, sensations, and information gleaned from experiences. Information and impressions from present experiences are archived in an orderly way into memory - which is typically a vast internal storehouse of data, details and impressions. The Introverted Sensing mind seeks rhythm, reliability, and order in its internal library and in its relationships with people and the outside world.
Introverted Sensing (Si) is dominant in ISFJ & ISTJ and supportive in ESFJ & ESTJ personality types.

Ni - How is Intuition experienced when it is turned inward?
Introverted Intuition reflects on patterns, relationships, symbols, meanings, and perspectives on matters from complex phenomena to magical connections to practical problems. The Introverted Intuitive mind typically creates a unique vision and arrives at unique insights about things, phenomena, or people. It strives to discover the essence of things and fill in the missing pieces of a puzzle. Introverted Intuitive types frequently will have complex visions or perspectives that they are unable to explain with clarity to others.
Introverted Intuition (Ni) is dominant in INFJ & INTJ and supportive in ENFJ & ENTJ personality types.

( http://www.personalitypathways.com/16-p ... ypes2.html )


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19 Oct 2012, 2:48 am

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To plodder: Hi, I have always been INFx. :)


Ooooh, that's interesting!

How does it work being an X? Are you equally good at both, or do you switch between one and the other? :?


Some quizzes type me as INFJ while some quizzes type me as INFP. When people try to guess my MBTI type, they mostly conclude that I'm P, but personally, I identify with J more.



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19 Oct 2012, 3:14 am

The only two categories I am sure on, are Introverted and Thinking. I've taken tests that gave me ISTJ, ISTP, INTJ and INTP.



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19 Oct 2012, 4:32 am

From the Enneagram test, I got exact even points on Intuition and Sensing personalities, which is apparently it's own subtype.



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19 Oct 2012, 12:28 pm

I seem to bounce between sensing and intuition. The rest of my letters are always the same.



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19 Oct 2012, 2:56 pm

I gleaned the questions from the quiz that may be connected to sensing or intuition in scoring (with my answers to them):

6. You are more interested in a general idea than in the details of its realization (NO)
8. Strict observance of the established rules is likely to prevent a good outcome (NO)
11. You often think about humankind and its destiny (YES)
26. You easily see the general principle behind specific occurrences (NO)
29. You get bored if you have to read theoretical books (YES)
34. You tend to rely on your experience rather than on theoretical alternatives (YES)
39. You are more inclined to experiment than to follow familiar approaches (YES)
44. It's essential for you to try things with your own hands (YES)
45. You think that almost everything can be analyzed (YES)
50. You easily understand new theoretical principles (YES)
53. When solving a problem you would rather follow a familiar approach than seek a new one (YES)
57. When considering a situation you pay more attention to the current situation and less to a possible sequence of events (YES)
63. You feel more comfortable sticking to conventional ways (YES)
67. As a rule, current preoccupations worry you more than your future plans (YES)

(bolded: answers that I think are indicative of 'Sensing')

And the test results (ISTJ, as usual, but the percentages may vary): Introvert(89%) Sensing(38%) Thinking(50%) Judging(78%)


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19 Oct 2012, 3:12 pm

My personality is INTP, so I'm more with intuition, than sensing (agree)
The way I see it, the intuitives are more abstract minded therefore try to understand an outside reality or thinking outside the box while the sensing are the concrete thinkers who understand the imediate reality (through the five senses) rather than further posibilities (through the imagination or whatever).
However, both types take information from the past but the processing of the information might be different. At least, this is how I see it.

From Wikipedia:

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Sensing and intuition are the information-gathering (perceiving) functions. They describe how new information is understood and interpreted. Individuals who prefer sensing are more likely to trust information that is in the present, tangible, and concrete: that is, information that can be understood by the five senses. They tend to distrust hunches, which seem to come "out of nowhere".[1]:2 They prefer to look for details and facts. For them, the meaning is in the data. On the other hand, those who prefer intuition tend to trust information that is more abstract or theoretical, that can be associated with other information (either remembered or discovered by seeking a wider context or pattern). They may be more interested in future possibilities. For them, the meaning is in the underlying theory and principles which are manifested in the data.


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20 Oct 2012, 7:04 am

AnotherKind wrote:
My personality is INTP, so I'm more with intuition, than sensing (agree)
The way I see it, the intuitives are more abstract minded therefore try to understand an outside reality or thinking outside the box while the sensing are the concrete thinkers who understand the imediate reality (through the five senses) rather than further posibilities (through the imagination or whatever).
However, both types take information from the past but the processing of the information might be different. At least, this is how I see it.

From Wikipedia:
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Sensing and intuition are the information-gathering (perceiving) functions. They describe how new information is understood and interpreted. Individuals who prefer sensing are more likely to trust information that is in the present, tangible, and concrete: that is, information that can be understood by the five senses. They tend to distrust hunches, which seem to come "out of nowhere".[1]:2 They prefer to look for details and facts. For them, the meaning is in the data. On the other hand, those who prefer intuition tend to trust information that is more abstract or theoretical, that can be associated with other information (either remembered or discovered by seeking a wider context or pattern). They may be more interested in future possibilities. For them, the meaning is in the underlying theory and principles which are manifested in the data.

Could you explain why the large majority of (presumably) ASD people are primarily 'N'?

Perhaps, Sensors are learners, while Intuitives are dreamers? :) (wow, that would explain why many of us are misfits...)

That is, Sensors focus on what information is available from the past and the present, analyze it to bits (using existing knowledge), and rarely come up with brand new ideas, while Intuitives mostly take information from the present, have a strong sense of what should be instead of what is, like new ideas, prefer to structure facts into vague structures without a proper name (hunches or groundbreaking theories), rather than well-developed ideas and theories. I wonder which of the two is more 'pragmatical'. Maybe the combination of the two?



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20 Oct 2012, 1:19 pm

OJani wrote:
Could you explain why the large majority of (presumably) ASD people are primarily 'N'?

Well, I don't think if I know the answer but I do think that, in this context, the sensing trait is more about processing/understanding information and not how you deal with external stimuli. You might be very well distracted by the external stimuli if you're intuitive as well (being absent-minded, for example)

Why ASD are primarily "N"? Why wouldn't be they? Sorry, but I'm not sure if I understood your question.
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Perhaps, Sensors are learners, while Intuitives are dreamers? :) (wow, that would explain why many of us are misfits...)

It makes sense to me.
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That is, Sensors focus on what information is available from the past and the present, analyze it to bits (using existing knowledge), and rarely come up with brand new ideas, while Intuitives mostly take information from the present, have a strong sense of what should be instead of what is, like new ideas, prefer to structure facts into vague structures without a proper name (hunches or groundbreaking theories), rather than well-developed ideas and theories. I wonder which of the two is more 'pragmatical'. Maybe the combination of the two?

I think Sensors might be more pragmatical because they're able to focus on the details while Intuitives are big-picture thinkers and they can lose focus of the present. I see you answered with no to the question "You are more interested in a general idea than in the details of its realization" (so it is sensing)

Here are some articles about sensing/intuition:
http://www.mypersonality.info/personali ... intuition/
http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-pers ... uition.asp


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20 Oct 2012, 8:38 pm

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I'm an INFJ.

Most autistic people seem to be SJ or NT types (I mean NT in the Myers Briggs sense, not as an abbreviation for neurotypical).

Being autistic, I feel like I don't fit in amongst the neurotypicals, and being an NF rather than an NT or SJ, I feel like I don't fit in amongst autistics, either. The only place I fit in is inside my own head. :lol:

Any other NF autistic people here? :bounce:


Plodder, I'm in between an INTP - INTJ more of an INTJ. My natural tendency is to systemize things.



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22 Oct 2012, 6:43 am

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Why ASD are primarily "N"? Why wouldn't be they? Sorry, but I'm not sure if I understood your question.

I mean, why the majority of the spectrum is 'N' type. The ratio is somewhere near 1:2. In my opinion the 'S' would be naturally the more prevalent among autistics. Maybe there are much more higher functioning people here on WP than lower functioning, but this is only speculation. Or maybe the opposite is true, lower functioning autistics simply do not trust their senses as much, because they are somewhat distorted, hence they are 'N'.



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22 Oct 2012, 8:44 am

I don't understand these tests. I mean I think something but I do something else. Therefore my answers on these tests are not indicative of my actual personality as much as my self-perceived personality. That said I think I am a mix of the two.



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23 Oct 2012, 4:08 am

Here's a quick but totally different quiz: http://similarminds.com/cgi-bin/pairmbword2.pl

I was worried during the test that I may come out something totally different than I was before personality-type wise, but I was false... :)

Introverted (I) 70.83% Extroverted (E) 29.17%
Sensing (S) 58.33% Intuitive (N) 41.67%
Thinking (T) 58.33% Feeling (F) 41.67%
Judging (J) 58.33% Perceiving (P) 41.67%



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12 Oct 2014, 2:12 pm

I prefer socionics interpretation of sensing and intuition.

Se: external power dynamics, usability of immediate resources...
Si: Being in tune with the environment aesthetic appreciation (leaves on threes beautiful clothes, good food). Internalised database of sensual information.

Ne: Seeing external possibilities and brainstorming aloud.
Ni: internal symbolism, reflecting backward and forward. Prophecies aka intuition of time. Vast internal imaginative capabilities.

I am Ni favouring ego type which means that Si is the hardest function for me.

Easiest way is to figure out which one is the most preferred and which one is the most painful mental state when being compared to others.
Ni dislikes Si
Se dislikes Ne
Si dislikes Ni
Ne dislikes Se


Good example of an Si ego base type: Capable of seeing sensory details can be a very amazing realistic painter (if the interest is there). I'm totally amazed how they can do it. They are always on some kind of hurry or in the moment fearing to reflect ahead of time.

About my Ni preference: I'm sitting alone with my thoughts and extrapolating to the future and searching for meanings between things and playing some kinds of imaginative acts inside my head. Constantly getting some kind of heureka moments. I'm physically quite lazy and my sense of aesthetics is rubbish.

Introverted intuition types are very rare (INTJ, ENTJ, INFJ, ENFJ). I bet you can find lots of outgoing ENFJs behind religious mass movements, cults and reclusive ones in art.

ENTJs: Social ones in economy behind pioneering start ups (Google, Microsoft) maybe politics or even in stand up comedy and reclusive ones in education and science.

INFJs music, counselling, poetry, science....

INTJs philosophy, science, actuary, business...

And of course being seriously maladjusted because they don't fit with in normal standards.



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12 Oct 2014, 3:52 pm

I'm an ISTJ & the S & J are really strong. I'm very detailed oriented.


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13 Oct 2014, 1:00 pm

That always confused me, too. I'm quite concrete and detail-oriented about language. I try to phrase things very precisely, and my understanding of others' words is often very literal. In nearly all other circumstances, I'm a very abstract and big-picture-oriented thinker, and I'm far more likely to get stuck on the big picture and unintentionally ignore important details because they don't fit with the whole than to get stuck on details and miss the big picture.

Maybe autistic iNtuitives are more likely to use forums and respond to polls, and we really are a minority but don't seem to be because of our presence on the internet?

Maybe the researchers who seem to imply that all autistic people are extreme Sensors are confusing literal/concrete language and language comprehension with literal/concrete thinking? I have no idea why they seem to imply that all neurotypicals are iNtuitives. THAT's a laugh. Where is this utopia of big-picture-oriented, empathetic neurotypicals that the researchers seem to live in? I want to move there!


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