What is a sure sign of autism

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21 Nov 2012, 10:44 am

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The only absolutely "sure" sign of autism is a perfectly symmetrical face. :

Hmmn, I know the studies you're referring to, but is it definite that NTs can't have a perfectly symmetrical face too? Look at all these perfect looking models for instance. Saying that it was found that a high percentage - even all - autistic children studied, had perfectly symmetrical faces isn't necessarily the same as saying non-autistics can't also have them - is it? If so, this can't then be an absolutely sure sign. (Were the studies large scale enough too?)

I'm also not entirely convinced about the facial characteristics that are supposedly a sign, both my daughters have different faces but both have the traits of ASD, paediatrician confirms autistic behaviours in my youngest and both are shortly going through AS assessments. I have AS, my eldest has a face more like mine, my youngest has a face more like her dad's (NT) but she seems a little more severely on the spectrum than her sister.

It's a facetious comment. There is no such thing as a purely perfectly symmetrical face. Ergo, there is no such thing as a single sure sign of autism. :wink:

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21 Nov 2012, 11:09 am

:oops:

There I go again, taking things literally and having poor understanding of humour!

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21 Nov 2012, 11:11 am

...even worse, is that I initially presumed your "It's a facetious comment." statement to mean my response!! It wasn't until I read the rest that I realised that wasn't what you meant. I'll just crawl off into my hole now... :oops:

Thanks for explaining BTW.

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21 Nov 2012, 11:13 am

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Thanks for explaining BTW.

Happens to me all the time too. Both ways. I do what you do, and don't explain enough so I cause it to happen to others. Sorry.

Drives my ex nutz though, so I don't really want to "fix" the problem right now. :twisted:

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21 Nov 2012, 11:16 am

:lol:

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22 Nov 2012, 4:07 pm

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Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

I think the majority of people on the spectrum change their clothes before a "VERY long time" has passed.

meaning?

Meaning precisely what it says. It is not an ambiguous statement.

Seriously

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22 Nov 2012, 4:07 pm

What?

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22 Nov 2012, 4:16 pm

IsItAsd wrote:

littlelily613 wrote:

IsItAsd wrote:

littlelily613 wrote:

IsItAsd wrote:

Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

I think the majority of people on the spectrum change their clothes before a "VERY long time" has passed.

meaning?

Meaning precisely what it says. It is not an ambiguous statement.

Seriously

Seriously. It seems quite unambiguous to me.

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22 Nov 2012, 4:30 pm

One thing doesn't mean autism. There has to be a lot more to it than that.

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22 Nov 2012, 4:32 pm

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I forgot my pen this morning. Doesn't mean I will have to be assessed for Dementia just because I forgot something.

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23 Nov 2012, 2:21 am

Verdandi wrote:

Seriously. It seems quite unambiguous to me.

"Very" is always ambiguous. "Long" is also ambiguous. There is no agreed-upon threshold for "long" or for "very long." "Long" could be 2 days for some and 2 months for others. "Majority" can be ambiguous, though I interpret it as >=50%. Specific time frames would be more precise. That's not to say the original statement was problematic - it was in accordance with the appropriate social norms - but it was definitely ambiguous.

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23 Nov 2012, 10:33 pm

madnak wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

Seriously. It seems quite unambiguous to me.

"Very" is always ambiguous. "Long" is also ambiguous.

Since those are the words I quoted directly from the OP, then s/he should know what they mean. :wink:

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26 Nov 2012, 8:48 pm

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One thing doesn't mean autism. There has to be a lot more to it than that.

I never had friends in high school. I had friends, but they aren't my friends anymore. I never see them. Not since I dropped out . I didn't like being in school because of all the confusion. I didn't talk to anyone because I didn't care about them or I didn't know how to be all social and stuff. I hated myself because I felt different, everyday in school I felt awkward. :roll:

I couldn't stand being in school anymore so I left. ii i i i i

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26 Nov 2012, 8:52 pm

Also, I thought a simple question about clothes would give me a little clue about it. Because I haven't changed my clothes, nor do I care about doing so. I saw a few questions about autism and hygiene figured I'd ask one. didn't turn out how i expected it to. but who cares

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26 Nov 2012, 9:17 pm

Also, No job. No social life. no friends outside of house.

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27 Nov 2012, 3:39 am

IsItAsd wrote:

Also, No job. No social life. no friends outside of house.

You can be NT and still have no friends.

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