17 Mar 2013, 5:09 am
Marcia wrote:
The Autism Act referred to here applies in England and Wales only, not the UK.
That's interesting for anyone outside the UK that means it applies in Britain (England and Wales)
Not Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland)
and not the UK (Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
Would be interested in any legislation specific to Northern Ireland if anyone knows about it ... will probably google it anyhow.
17 Mar 2013, 6:06 am
17 Mar 2013, 6:08 am
17 Mar 2013, 6:10 am
gratin wrote:
Marcia wrote:
The Autism Act referred to here applies in England and Wales only, not the UK.
That's interesting for anyone outside the UK that means it applies in Britain (England and Wales)
Not Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland)
and not the UK (Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
Would be interested in any legislation specific to Northern Ireland if anyone knows about it ... will probably google it anyhow.
I live in the UK and I've never understood it all!
So many different names for one country!
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17 Mar 2013, 7:25 am
Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
whirlingmind wrote:
DVCal wrote:
She obviously means it doens't apply to the whole U.K, so it would exclude Scotland and Northern Ireland.
You mean Scotland and Southern Ireland (Eire), as NI is part of the UK.
I'm a klutz, only I could correct one error without noticing the other one. It's my Irish roots that made the NI error stand out to me!
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17 Mar 2013, 7:27 am
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glow wrote:
SteelMaiden wrote:
I live in supported housing and both the carers have zero training in autism.
i rest my case
Even after the average person receives training in autism it won't make much difference as most support workers are exceedingly stupid and wouldn't have the intelligence or initiative to apply what they'd been told in a practical manner. Intelligent people will benefit yes but there aren't many of those within the social care sector; they'll usually be earning more money in other fields.
What we need is a flood of autistic people all going to work in front line positions in the NHS, to ensure their colleagues take training on board and educate them on a day to day basis. Trouble is, people with ASCs would probably find working alongside them intolerable!
17 Mar 2013, 7:31 am
whirlingmind wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
glow wrote:
SteelMaiden wrote:
I live in supported housing and both the carers have zero training in autism.
i rest my case
Even after the average person receives training in autism it won't make much difference as most support workers are exceedingly stupid and wouldn't have the intelligence or initiative to apply what they'd been told in a practical manner. Intelligent people will benefit yes but there aren't many of those within the social care sector; they'll usually be earning more money in other fields.
What we need is a flood of autistic people all going to work in front line positions in the NHS, to ensure their colleagues take training on board and educate them on a day to day basis. Trouble is, people with ASCs would probably find working alongside them intolerable!
People who work in the NHS can often be really unpleasant, with a complete lack of compassion. It's bad enough having to attend for an appointment for something or visit other people in hospital - I find that traumatic enough, so working in that setting would be hell on earth for me!
They often have little to no compassion for the so-called normal people so a person with an ASD has got no chance!
Hospitals are dangerous places these days
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17 Mar 2013, 11:42 am
just for clarity
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17 Mar 2013, 2:18 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
My only criticism of that diagram is that it doesn't have a "British Isles" circle including Eire but not the crown dependencies.
Okay, I lied, I have another criticism: it's either "Mann" or "Isle of Man". "Isle of Mann" is not really correct, although it gets the point across.
Okay, I lied, I have another criticism: it's either "Mann" or "Isle of Man". "Isle of Mann" is not really correct, although it gets the point across.
Fair point. Fixed!
17 Mar 2013, 2:32 pm
whirlingmind wrote:
Aspie pedantry rules eh! We're all debating who means what and what is officially correct about the UK and which bits are included...and poor OP hasn't had a reply to his direct request for a simplified explanation of the Act yet!
Can't answer a question about a piece of legislation which doesn't exist!
17 Mar 2013, 5:16 pm
17 Mar 2013, 5:16 pm
I said "crown dependencies". I meant "overseas territories". Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man are of course in the British Isles.
Marcia wrote:
whirlingmind wrote:
Aspie pedantry rules eh! We're all debating who means what and what is officially correct about the UK and which bits are included...and poor OP hasn't had a reply to his direct request for a simplified explanation of the Act yet!
Can't answer a question about a piece of legislation which doesn't exist!
It does exist, since November 2009.
You've probably already read the Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Act_2009
So local authorities have to have a plan for providing services for adults with autism?
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