ASD: Anti-social disorder

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I hate how people try and link criminal behavior to ASD. I wasn't happy when I heard Gary Mcannen(sp) got off without any sort of charges but this one is the worst. What Gary did was pretty harmless because no one was hurt. Heck even breaking into someone's home would be harmless just as long as no one is hurt but charges would still be pressed if the owner wishes to do that. But this pisses me off the most and I am sick of hearing about shooters having autism. Oh he was a loner, had no friends, he was quiet, he must have been autistic.

I have thrown cell phones, remote controls, hit, kicked, broken a picture frame, but I will never take a gun and start shooting people nor chase anyone with a knife.

I didn't read the article BTW and I assume they mean asocial. anti social is often misused by lot of people, even my husband uses that word and I have to correct him.

It quite clearly states anti-social disorder and the intention seems concise in context of the paragraph.

It will no doubt emerge that the gunman is likely sociopathic and/or psychotic.

No good either the newspaper apologising for their ignorance and error when the damage has been done already.

Well I only complained to the news desk.

His name is Giles Sheldrick.

Under 'contact us' though unfortunately he was not listed.

I am named after a song (and album) by an artist called Andy Clayburn.

Ah well, never heard of that but hope it is as good as Lionel Richie.

"Antisocial disorder?!"...darn, this is all we need! (*sarcasm intended*)

The issue of co-morbid personality disorders has been studied among those with Autism Spectrum Disorders; in the study linked below anti-social personality disorder was not found in any of the sample of individuals with Asperger's syndrome, and was assessed in 4 individuals with PDDNOS.

Out of 62 individuals studied with Asperger's syndrome 68% had one personality disorder and 40% had two personality disorders co-morbid with Asperger's syndrome. 40% were reported obsessive, 29% avoidant, 21% schizoid, 19% paranoid, and 16% schizotypal, among others identified in the second link below that lists illustrates the table of disorders.

Out of 50 individuals studied with PDD NOS 60% had one personality disorder and 32% had two personality disorders co-morbid with PDDNOS, with detail of the disorders in the table.

Out of 5 individuals studied with Autistic Disorder 20% had one personality disorder, 0% had two personality disorders; one individual was identified with obsessive personality disorder with no other personality disorders identified in this very small sample of individuals with autistic disorder.

The study is worth checking out as it has some other very interesting information.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2705351/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... /table/T4/

At least from this study it appears that it would be unusual to find a person diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome with anti-social personality disorder, but not unusual at all to find a person diagnosed co-morbid with a personality disorder, or potentially two.

Even if the shooter was a sociopath, that still wouldn't be enough to explain why he did it. Sociopaths may lack empathy and a conscience, but they are still concerned with self-preservation. Most sociopaths still don't want to die or go to prison. Adam Lanza shot those children anticipating that he would have to commit suicide afterwards. There would also need to be a motive for doing it in the first place. The only reasonable explanation for why he would have done it is that he was manic and psychotic.

In previous evenings, news anchors always said that the perpetrator had Asperger's.

Yesterday, they directly said he was "mentally sick". On national air. In the prime time.


I am simply... speechless

It makes me feel sick, not just the ignorance, the damage they are doing with it in speech and print.

No reply from the Express newsdesk either but I would imagine they won't have time due to so many other complaints.

I tried sending that nice journalist an e-mail but I keep getting error messages "Undeliverable: recipient's mailbox is full".

Maybe it really is full... or perhaps he doesn't use this e-mail anymore.

I will try to find alternative ways... but I am definitely going to write to the media. Even if it's to the generic e-mail address of their office.


UPDATE: I think my e-mail went through. No automated error reply for about 20 minutes now. I hope this means he finally received it. Let's see if he'll respond (if he really got it, he should - he loves talking to people about their problems).

the term anti-social is being misused. I believe the correct term is asocial.

It has probably crashed under the volume of protesting emails.

How did you find his actual email?

I tried down the lists but it just gave one contact for each department.

Altogether a dreadful piece of writing in a sensationalist paper. The adjectives used in the report would make a pulp-novelist proud (IMHO)
Clearly I'm not going to buy a copy of their newspaper any time soon

I wouldn't use the term asocial to describe us either. If we were truly asocial we'd be like Schizoids, and feel no positive or negative emotions towards other people, nor would we have any desire to be around other people. Schizoids are having a discussion about the same event on another forum. Most of them say they just don't care, some of them say they enjoy the entertain value of the media's reporting of the event and of people's reactions to it, and some of them say that it's completely illogical and can't figure out why someone would do something like this though they feel no emotion for it. I don't resent them though because they can't help but feel nothing, and they have no bad intentions. From my time spent observing their discussions, I have noticed that they generally seem to be more sensible than the average person. I actually have more respect for the sensible people who lack feelings towards other people than I do for the ignorant people who have them.

There is probably always someone who doesnt wanna socialize.

I mean i wouldn mind it at all, if i understood socializing and if i didn get so strained and tired with all the odd stuff people do while talking, and no to mention how much they talk about pointless stuff, and then when you dont understand what they are saying.