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LisaOfShades
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25 Dec 2012, 9:59 am

Sounds like you favor the rational brain above the emotional one maybe?
I am good at reading people... but yeah people are defined by what they do so it kinda makes sense. You can't really enjoy a person without an event...

I see people as bugs... so... yeah~

But I'm an hybrid aspie or something.



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25 Dec 2012, 11:14 am

yes, but not in a bad way as some might take it.

Each of us is like a whirlpool in a stream, with water flowing into it, swirling in the pattern, then flowing out. The pattern more or less stays the same but may change as rocks erode or stream levels change. We are like patterns in the universe, with energy flowing into us, swirling in the pattern, then flowing out.

It is important to remember too that you cannot step into the same stream twice. Heraclitus may have said that a long time ago, and I still get the giggles at the dirty jokes possible from his name. The you of five minutes ago is not the same as the present you. Also, the you of five minutes ago did not become the present you. A Chinese philosopher put it this way: Spring does not become Summer. First there is Spring, then there is Summer. Each season stays in its place.

I see each of us as a local feature of the universe. I got this idea from the late 20th century philosopher and spiritual entertainer Alan Watts. He would emphasize that you can't really say each of us is a "part" of the universe because the universe has no separate parts. It is one big happening, everything is connected, and it is a purely arbitrary decision to say where one person or object ends and another begins.

I also like the way he described visualizing the skin not as something that separates us from the rest of the universe, but as something that joins us to it! As George Harrison said in the film Yellow Submarine, "It's all in the mind."


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25 Dec 2012, 12:59 pm

Wow, you've given me something to think about.
I think I understand what you mean by "events." That is a near way to put it.

For certain classes, especially 6-hour ones, I love my classmates as a whole, but rarely individually.

I try to treat workers/employees/professionals as people, just to try to make their day better.

Close friends & immediate family will be people, but acquaintances and relatives I'm not close with are definitely events.
Hmm...



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26 Dec 2012, 2:10 am

dizzywater wrote:
mljt wrote:
I had some training on autism at work the other day. The lady said that scientists are pretty sure that people with autism process other people in the "object" part of their brain, as opposed to the "social" part of their brain, so that would make sense that you see people that way.

Also, people with autism can find it hard to recognise faces/people outside of a situation they know. For instance if I see a colleague in the street I have a hard time recognising them, but if I see them at work I'll recognise them instantly. Maybe it's something to do with that?


This is very close to my thoughts.

I can't recognise people easily unless they are where I expect. Even photos of close family can have me staring a long time to figure out who.

I don't really consider if a person is feeling a certain way, only how I will feel about having spent time with them. I will feel good about myself, not having been a recluse for once. Really that is all spending time with a friend means to me. Its like ticking a box on the "I am normal" chart. I always try to help a friend, its a kind of insurance so I can ask a favour if necessary, and so they will continue to be my friend.

As a Mum, I try my best to always try to think from my children's perspective, and some people have commented how good at that I am. I make a huge conscious effort with my children. When my first child was born I felt like I breathed through his lungs, we were so connected. But mostly people are objects, they have function in my life.

I don't feel that good about myself because I don't really care about most people, just about the injustices they may have suffered etc. If they died it would be similar to them moving away really, yet I feel so much for people I have never even met if they have been treated unfairly.

I give to charity because I would feel bad about myself if I didn't try to correct the injustices of the world. I would suffer if I did nothing, so I give. I don't think I am under the normal illusion of altruism. I don't believe altruism exists.

Maybe we are more self aware than NTs in some ways, not less. Or maybe just differently aware.


I feel much the same way as you do in these respects, dizzywater.