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28 Dec 2012, 9:51 pm

Test taken on 28 December 2012: You scored 14.0 out of 22 in 8.8 seconds

I am confused that NT males score lower than Aspies :?


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28 Dec 2012, 10:21 pm

Test taken on 28 December 2012: You scored 4.0 out of 22 in 13.9 seconds

this seems a negative result. i'll take it again and see if i do better. at one point i just had to guess because none of the options seemed correct, or i simply had no clue.


Edit: i took it a second time and did just a bit better

Test taken on 28 December 2012: You scored 6.0 out of 22 in 8.5 seconds

it would be nice to know correct answers.



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29 Dec 2012, 1:04 am

Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 14.0 out of 22 in 3.4 seconds

The average score for males with ASD is 12.0 out of 22 in 9.1 seconds
The average score for females with ASD is 11.4 out of 22 in 7.4 seconds
The average score for males with suspected ASD is 12.4 out of 22 in 11.1 seconds
The average score for females with suspected ASD is 12.2 out of 22 in 11.0 seconds
The average score for male neurotypicals is 9.7 out of 22 in 15.3 seconds
The average score for female neurotypicals is 14.7 out of 22 in 9.0 seconds

(Argh! I re-did this test because my browser suddenly crashed while I was doing it for the first time.)



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29 Dec 2012, 7:39 am

I wonder if the score should be interpreted on how many you get wrong. :scratch:



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29 Dec 2012, 8:45 am

little_black_sheep wrote:
Test taken on 28 December 2012: You scored 14.0 out of 22 in 8.8 seconds

I am confused that NT males score lower than Aspies :?

As I speculated before, people on the spectrum spend much of their lives consciously trying to analyse situations and verbalise/figure out what is going on. I believe that we have more practice at looking at situations and intellectually analysing them, sometimes perhaps overcompensating for our own shortcomings (which unlike NTs we are aware of) - this may explain why people on the spectrum seem to be doing relatively well on average.



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29 Dec 2012, 8:47 am

I looked up the research paper associated with this test and the correlation was higher scores = more accuracy. However, 19 of the 22 AS/HFA participants scored above 9, indicating that a score in the midrange is not strictly indicative.



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29 Dec 2012, 9:12 am

Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 10.0 out of 22 in 9.5 seconds

I'm a bit disappointed ... I was SURE I'd scored better than that!


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29 Dec 2012, 2:51 pm

Noetic wrote:
little_black_sheep wrote:
Test taken on 28 December 2012: You scored 14.0 out of 22 in 8.8 seconds

I am confused that NT males score lower than Aspies :?

As I speculated before, people on the spectrum spend much of their lives consciously trying to analyse situations and verbalise/figure out what is going on. I believe that we have more practice at looking at situations and intellectually analysing them, sometimes perhaps overcompensating for our own shortcomings (which unlike NTs we are aware of) - this may explain why people on the spectrum seem to be doing relatively well on average.


This makes sense. I felt like I was just using deductive reasoning to find my answers. Well, also, I feel like I used my slightly above average audio memory along with a few other things to help me get the answers. I took it at 2 in the morning though, so I barely remember "how" I took it as far as methods and stuff. :P


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29 Dec 2012, 3:05 pm

Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 7.0 out of 22 in 4.2 seconds


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29 Dec 2012, 3:52 pm

Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 17.0 out of 22 in 7.8 seconds


The average score for males with ASD is 12.1 out of 22 in 8.9 seconds
The average score for females with ASD is 11.5 out of 22 in 7.4 seconds
The average score for males with suspected ASD is 12.5 out of 22 in 11.0 seconds
The average score for females with suspected ASD is 12.2 out of 22 in 11.0 seconds
The average score for male neurotypicals is 9.7 out of 22 in 15.3 seconds
The average score for female neurotypicals is 14.7 out of 22 in 9.0 seconds


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29 Dec 2012, 4:12 pm

Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 16.0 out of 22 in 7.7 seconds

the problem with this test is that is was designed by Baron-Cohen. a great deal of the things he takes for granted about empathy and emotional intelligence, especially regarding gender differences, is not necessarily reliable or valid in the real world.

interestingly... for empathy tests, if men do not know they are being tested, they will score the same as women. society tells men they don't understand emotions and can't "read" what people are feeling, so they believe it. but if you trick them by testing them on the sly, they are no worse than women at reading emotions.


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29 Dec 2012, 4:32 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 16.0 out of 22 in 7.7 seconds

the problem with this test is that is was designed by Baron-Cohen. a great deal of the things he takes for granted about empathy and emotional intelligence, especially regarding gender differences, is not necessarily reliable or valid in the real world.

interestingly... for empathy tests, if men do not know they are being tested, they will score the same as women. society tells men they don't understand emotions and can't "read" what people are feeling, so they believe it. but if you trick them by testing them on the sly, they are no worse than women at reading emotions.
that's interesting..although since they have that stigma they will be worse at it in real world situations


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29 Dec 2012, 4:43 pm

Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 8.0 out of 22 in 9.0 seconds


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29 Dec 2012, 6:01 pm

wtfid2 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 16.0 out of 22 in 7.7 seconds

the problem with this test is that is was designed by Baron-Cohen. a great deal of the things he takes for granted about empathy and emotional intelligence, especially regarding gender differences, is not necessarily reliable or valid in the real world.

interestingly... for empathy tests, if men do not know they are being tested, they will score the same as women. society tells men they don't understand emotions and can't "read" what people are feeling, so they believe it. but if you trick them by testing them on the sly, they are no worse than women at reading emotions.
that's interesting..although since they have that stigma they will be worse at it in real world situations

that is totally true, yes. the only way they could get an accurate result was to trick the test subjects (they set up a situation with a loved one where they had to guess what they were thinking or feeling, if i recall correctly, but they were never told what they were being tested for)


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29 Dec 2012, 6:23 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 16.0 out of 22 in 7.7 seconds

the problem with this test is that is was designed by Baron-Cohen. a great deal of the things he takes for granted about empathy and emotional intelligence, especially regarding gender differences, is not necessarily reliable or valid in the real world.

interestingly... for empathy tests, if men do not know they are being tested, they will score the same as women. society tells men they don't understand emotions and can't "read" what people are feeling, so they believe it. but if you trick them by testing them on the sly, they are no worse than women at reading emotions.
that's interesting..although since they have that stigma they will be worse at it in real world situations

that is totally true, yes. the only way they could get an accurate result was to trick the test subjects (they set up a situation with a loved one where they had to guess what they were thinking or feeling, if i recall correctly, but they were never told what they were being tested for)



So you would basically have to manipulate them for the accurate score.

Not all manipulation is bad.


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29 Dec 2012, 7:15 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
wtfid2 wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Test taken on 29 December 2012: You scored 16.0 out of 22 in 7.7 seconds

the problem with this test is that is was designed by Baron-Cohen. a great deal of the things he takes for granted about empathy and emotional intelligence, especially regarding gender differences, is not necessarily reliable or valid in the real world.

interestingly... for empathy tests, if men do not know they are being tested, they will score the same as women. society tells men they don't understand emotions and can't "read" what people are feeling, so they believe it. but if you trick them by testing them on the sly, they are no worse than women at reading emotions.
that's interesting..although since they have that stigma they will be worse at it in real world situations

that is totally true, yes. the only way they could get an accurate result was to trick the test subjects (they set up a situation with a loved one where they had to guess what they were thinking or feeling, if i recall correctly, but they were never told what they were being tested for)


This sounds a lot like stereotype threat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat