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Sylvastor
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05 Jan 2013, 4:20 pm

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I too, have primarily a nocturnal sleep pattern.


Like already mentioned from a few of you....I enjoy the peacefulness, the quiet of night, nice & tranquil. I also really enjoy watching and experiencing the early morning hours around sunrise, witnessing everything come alive for the day. There's just so much stimulus during the day it feels draining, even if I am somewhere quiet, the atmosphere or the air around me feels very "busy" & active.


I've been wondering if a lot of those with AS prefer night time, or find themselves falling into a nocturnal sleep pattern. I've been this way since a kid, always enjoying and being more at ease at night. Every so often my sleep pattern becomes really messed up & erratic, from insomnia to too much sleep. Particularly during the winter, when the amount of daylight is relatively short, I find myself waking up just before sunset and going to sleep just before sunrise. When more sunlight during the days of summer come around my sleep pattern somewhat starts to switch back to "normal". But I inevitably end up falling back into my ol' habit of being up all night......I have noticed, when I go camping for at least a couple days I naturally wake up as soon as the sun comes up, now that is only if I wasn't up all night gazing at the stars :) .



I know I could benefit from more sunlight exposure upon me skin....Sunlight (in moderation of course :wink: ) is good for the body (and in my opinion the mind & soul as well). I really do enjoy the feeling of warm blissful sunshine, just don't get enough of it.

Perfectly agree.

Nighttime is just the perfect alonetime!

Sometimes I wish people would sleep during the day so I could enjoy the day instead of the night - for a change! :lol:


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05 Jan 2013, 4:57 pm

If I had my way sleep all day be up all night.


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05 Jan 2013, 11:11 pm

I'm definitely a night person, I usually go to bed between 3 and 7 AM (right now it's 5 for example and I'm still not tired) but it can be more sometimes. I love to live at night because it's so calm and silent, I can devote myself to my interests without anyone interrupting me. I am definitely more receptive and inspired at night. As I don't have a job for the moment I can keep on living like I do, wake up in the middle of the afternoon without having to feel bad about it... I'm thinking about looking for a night job but at the same time I'm a bit skeptical about it as I would lose the feeling of peace and calm I can feel at night and have less time for my interests... I know I will have to adapt in some ways but right now I feel completely fine with my nocturnal rhythm and want to enjoy it as much as possible.



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05 Jan 2013, 11:31 pm

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I'm definitely a night person, I usually go to bed between 3 and 7 AM (right now it's 5 for example and I'm still not tired) but it can be more sometimes. I love to live at night because it's so calm and silent, I can devote myself to my interests without anyone interrupting me. I am definitely more receptive and inspired at night. As I don't have a job for the moment I can keep on living like I do, wake up in the middle of the afternoon without having to feel bad about it... I'm thinking about looking for a night job but at the same time I'm a bit skeptical about it as I would lose the feeling of peace and calm I can feel at night and have less time for my interests... I know I will have to adapt in some ways but right now I feel completely fine with my nocturnal rhythm and want to enjoy it as much as possible.

Those are exactly my thoughts on that subject.

Fun fact: I wrote this post at 5:31AM. :P


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06 Jan 2013, 12:19 am

Although I agree with the consensus that the solitude and serenity of night is preferable to the chaos of daytime, I am so diurnal that the extent at which I am such is almost unusual in retrospect to the diurnal society I live in. I am usually awake by eight A.M., if not much earlier (on a school day, I will wake up at 5:30, often waking up at least once a night). I begin to tire around eight-thirty P.M. (earlier on a day of greater stimulation); at 11:17, the time at which I am posting this, I am consciously struggling to keep my eyes open.



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06 Jan 2013, 12:38 am

WerewolfPoet, I have to note that your use of language is simply beautiful, I thoroughly enjoyed to read your post. I think it is pretty clear your special interest is peotry just by your name and how you write.
It is a shame that society basically forces us to live our life at daytime seeing how many of us seem to have problems with overstimulation during daytime.

There is one thing I would like to ask:
How do other people here usually get back to their "duty routine"?
For example: I have school on Monday, this means I will have to get up earlier than I used to in the previous days. Often I struggle a lot trying to get into that old/normal routine because of my preference to have a nocturnal schedule...


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06 Jan 2013, 1:12 am

Sylvastor wrote:
How do other people here usually get back to their "duty routine"?
For example: I have school on Monday, this means I will have to get up earlier than I used to in the previous days. Often I struggle a lot trying to get into that old/normal routine because of my preference to have a nocturnal schedule...

I've had varying degrees of success doing that, sometimes i just seems to require getting tired enough to sleep 'properly'. A fair few times i've deliberately stayed up 24 or more hours until a 'normal' bed time and that's fixed it. Any fix seems temporary however, I always seem to gravitate back to staying up all night.



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06 Jan 2013, 1:34 am

This is an EXTREMELY interesting forum post. I also am nocturnal, I even work a night shift! And I, too, naturally go to sleep sometime before sunrise and wake a little before or after noon (when unemployed, when I was younger, on long vacations, etc.). This landslide of posts hints that maybe we DO have an important place in our species, but perhaps the traits have been over-concentrated or otherwise augmented. I know that I, for one, would make an AMAZING night watchman. I hear every rustle, every squeak - and I'm pitifully dutiful, to the point of self-sacrifice. Always have been. I am senselessly loyal to things, for no obvious reason. But that also has made me a very reliable and useful person to many employers over the years.

But perhaps the diurnal are simply uninterested in this thread? If so, perhaps an opposite thread is due...



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06 Jan 2013, 1:43 am

I am nocturnal, I tend to fall asleep anytime between 2am and 6am normally. If I have to, due to school, work or travel I can get into a routine of going to bed a bit earlier but I find it rather annoying going to bed when I feel wide awake. If I need to adjust my sleep cycle, I tend Valerian. It's an over the counter herb which acts as a muscle relaxant and it can help get a decent 6 hours in. One of my friends recommended it after I had an all-nighter due to simply not being tired enough to fall asleep at a decent time.


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09 Jan 2013, 10:15 pm

Sylvastor wrote:
WerewolfPoet, I have to note that your use of language is simply beautiful, I thoroughly enjoyed to read your post. I think it is pretty clear your special interest is peotry just by your name and how you write.


I greatly appreciate your compliment; indeed, the craft of writing is one that I deeply cherish.



knifegill wrote:
But perhaps the diurnal are simply uninterested in this thread? If so, perhaps an opposite thread is due...


That is a definite possibility. It probably does not help that the original post was made at 5:29 A.M., a time at which the diurnals are either sleep asleep or just beginning to awaken.; by the time this demographic was to log unto WrongPlanet, this thread may have been bumped to the second page by the activity occurring in the other threads.



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10 Jan 2013, 10:52 am

I have massive problems with sleeping and always have really.

I just cannot switch off even if I do try to go to bed and attempt to sleep at, say, 11pm. Normal scenario is that I will life for a while, take a sleeping pill, not be able to relax and get up an hour or 2 later not even feeling remotely tired. I will then at least feel like I am doing something remotely productive even if it is just sorting through my photos or researching something of interest. I will often net get tired and go to bed to sleep until about 3-4am or even later. This is particularly a problem since I have a job to be at. Although my boss has told me his is not concerned too much about what time exactly I arrive, I think the expectation is that I come in around 8-9am. Needless to say this is a problem when you only get to sleep at 4am and it takes you an hour to get ready and cycle to work. I will very often arrive late on very little sleep. I want to be more balanced in my sleeping but it just seems so hardwired into my nature to stay up late.

I have been trying to make sense of this in terms of Asperger's and I have a theory. I have always needed my own space and time on my own as seems quite common on the spectrum (or even just in general). I have been living with my wife for about 7 years but have always had the study (my 'man cave') to retreat to when I require time and space on my own. I had my computer and music kit in there and my wife would rarely venture in meaning that I didnt really acknowledge how much I really needed this me-time because I never had to go without it. However, a year ago we changed around the room configuration and I lost the man cave as it became our bedroom. Although I have access to the computer and music stuff still, it is all in a shared throughway type dining room which has zero privacy compared to the other room. This means that the only time I can get proper uninterrupted me-time is after my wife goes to bed. This coincides with when my sleeping which is always bad, became much worse and I started missing entire nights of sleep and having to call in sick simply because I had just screwed up my sleep in a major way.


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10 Jan 2013, 11:04 am

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I was awake till 4am this morning! I seem to be getting worse, my special interest is also much stronger at night than through the day and I can't deny myself the opertunity to look things up and massively over think things, at night my interests are so much more alive and then during the day they're quite faint and I don't have that much interest in them.
This is increasingly frustrating because once the Christmas holidays are over I have to get up early and will have no time to use on my interest.
Anyone else have this problem? And if so how do you fix it?



I also used to be a nocturnal person and spend a mass amount of time researching online. I do enjoy the quiet of night and maybe it helped me focus better.
Maybe the night seems to amplify things such as focus inside our minds? -this is just a random thought.
I do know that if someone is depressed at night, their depression can get worse being at night than day. Psychologists have agreed with this. Maybe it's the pull of the moon i don't know.
My nocturnal habits then had a lot to do with everyone else being asleep in the house.

Since i moved into my own place i started waking up in the AM and going to sleep before midnight. I have my privacy to research whenever i want, yet i am at the point where i like to be doing something outside during day when it is sunny out. Riding my bikes, gardening. Getting the Vita D from the sun :D



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11 Jan 2013, 11:47 pm

Night is usually the time that I go on these forums, but it's very early in the morning over here.



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12 Jan 2013, 1:54 am

Still trying to get into my old routine. Maybe I should do an "all-dayer" (if diurnal people do "all-nighters", then it must be an "all-dayer" in my case).

Inferno87, I tend to "gravitate back to staying up all night" as well. Making myself tired with little sleep and staying awake for 24 hours is usually a tactic I use too, but the problem is that the night has an incredibly strong gravity and the next day I can be awake in the night - once again. :lol:


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12 Jan 2013, 2:10 am

Sylvastor wrote:
Still trying to get into my old routine. Maybe I should do an "all-dayer" (if diural people do "all-nighters", then it must be an "all-dayer" in my case).

Inferno87, I tend to "gravitate back to staying up all night" as well. Making myself tired with little sleep and staying awake for 24 hours is usually a tactic I use too, but the problem is that the night has an incredibly strong gravity and the next day I can be awake in the night - once again. :lol:


That's also the technique I apply and it's true, it has its issues also, like falling asleep at 20 and waking up at 3am, a real vicious circle. But I'm kinda happy, I managed to get my old routine back after some days struggling and sleep at night, but we never know how long it will last. I will probably miss my night habits very soon... :)