anyone else feel bad after standing up for theirselves?

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07 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm

You shouldn't. If anything you would've felt more guilty had you not defended yourself and did nothing,



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07 Jan 2013, 1:01 pm

Yes, I find it extremely hard to stand up for myself. I would have felt the same way in your situation too.

I know I should stand up for myself more, and people are always telling me to, but it's not always as simple. I have a friend who tells me lots of stories of when she used to stand up for herself a lot at her old job, and sometimes I don't always believe her because I think she exaggerates a lot of the time. I have tried hard and stood up for myself before, and it just made things worse for me. It was at a voluntary job I used to go to, I said something stubbornly and for the rest of the day the whole atmosphere had turned hostile and it affected me. I can't help being affected by other people's thoughts, I just am.

A few weeks after that I left the voluntary job anyway because the manager wasn't the type of person I'd choose to volunteer for.


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07 Jan 2013, 1:23 pm

I become so riddled with guilt when I stand up for myself that I rarely bother to do so. I prefer to discern where the negativity is coming from and alter my behaviour accordingly.
Obviously in the case of the street fight, you have to defend yourself or you'll get hurt. But, at the same time, you can't let other people's behaviour dictate how you behave. I wouldn't take any joy in hurting them either.
The comment by the Costco worker was petty. WTF does she care if you take the samples. But there are consequences to making an issue of it. Your "friends" may not be as nice to you anymore.



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07 Jan 2013, 2:57 pm

A nurse mocked me for stuttering today and I was too shocked to even respond.



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07 Jan 2013, 2:59 pm

Yeah, and it's because I don't like inflicting pain on others, no matter how justified (lots of guilt).



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07 Jan 2013, 3:21 pm

I should add that yes, I also feel guilty right away when I do. A big part of why I don't defend myself is wondering if I'm wrong, etc.



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07 Jan 2013, 4:01 pm

knifegill wrote:
I should add that yes, I also feel guilty right away when I do. A big part of why I don't defend myself is wondering if I'm wrong, etc.


I agree. I always second guess myself and wonder. OMG I could be wrong. I HATE being wrong. Also, I feel so stupid and replay the moment if I don't speak up as well. So it's darned if I do, darned if I don't. Either way its' bad.


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07 Jan 2013, 4:03 pm

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A nurse mocked me for stuttering today and I was too shocked to even respond.

That's awful. I'd expect better from a professional. But there are jerks everywhere.



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07 Jan 2013, 4:24 pm

Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. It depends on how mature the other person is.


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07 Jan 2013, 4:26 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
knifegill wrote:
A nurse mocked me for stuttering today and I was too shocked to even respond.

That's awful. I'd expect better from a professional. But there are jerks everywhere.


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07 Jan 2013, 4:34 pm

No, I never feel bad after it. Why should I? I just defend my opinion, what I feel is right. I'd be a weak person if I wouldn't stand up for myself.



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23 Mar 2013, 8:18 pm

went to buy a powerball ticket today at the supermarket, and since I was using my own numbers I wrote them down on scrap and handed them to her. She gave me a nasty look like i was scum and said ''you have anything against the machine's numbers'', i said no, and she said ''you have anything against the number cards''(you are supposed to fill a card out when you choose your own numbers)
at this point I was tired of her treating me like s**t so i said, what's the big deal in a nasty voice......and she said those famous female get out of jail free lines....

I WAS JUST TEASING YOU

I felt bad after she said this, and like I had a possibly aspie moment, so i tried to make up for it, by being talkative with her, and she was bitchy to me and sucking her teeth, so i regretted trying to be nice.

she was asian too.


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24 Mar 2013, 8:13 am

Logicalmom wrote:
I don't handle confrontation and conflict well. Then I second guess myself and replay it continually.


This is me as well.

I'm always second guessing myself. I want to do the right thing. Sometimes I just have to ignore the bad feeling and stand up for myself anyway. It's so difficult. :(



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24 Mar 2013, 9:01 am

Yes, I often do. Then I get reminded by the other person's nastiness that I shouldn't feel guilty. I feel really stupid for feeling guilty/trying to be nice towards people who don't give a sh1t about how I feel. They seem to be good at manipulating this guilty feeling of someone like me. I believe this is an autistic thing. I never seem to learn how to handle these people.



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24 Mar 2013, 10:25 am

I tend to have the opposite feeling when I stand up for myself - I feel good. It's like a massive shot of positive feeling goes straight to my brain as I've asserted my right to respect. I interpret it as me subverting my usual role as being at the bottom of the social hierarchy so that I am higher up and my brain chemistry responds accordingly. I wouldn't have the energy to keep asserting myself in this manner just to get that positive boost though - I'd end up dead pretty quickly too as there'd be fights and all sorts of shouting matches so it just wouldn't be worth it. Just occasionally though when I do assert myself strongly, I feel as I imagine a lot of NTs feel every day of their lives!



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24 Mar 2013, 10:27 am

wtfid2 wrote:
went to buy a powerball ticket today at the supermarket, and since I was using my own numbers I wrote them down on scrap and handed them to her. She gave me a nasty look like i was scum and said ''you have anything against the machine's numbers'', i said no, and she said ''you have anything against the number cards''(you are supposed to fill a card out when you choose your own numbers)
at this point I was tired of her treating me like sh** so i said, what's the big deal in a nasty voice......and she said those famous female get out of jail free lines....

I WAS JUST TEASING YOU

I felt bad after she said this, and like I had a possibly aspie moment, so i tried to make up for it, by being talkative with her, and she was bitchy to me and sucking her teeth, so i regretted trying to be nice.

she was asian too.


Why do you make any effort to interact with such a disrespectful person? I don't understand the logic of wanting interaction with an unpleasant person and then not liking it when they are unpleasant to you.