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09 Jan 2013, 2:40 am

Verdandi wrote:
I am fairly certain that "autistic" will never be a fashionable label for anything, unfortunately.

Also, AS was always presented as being part of the autistic spectrum. It was based on a paper called "autistic psychopathy in children."



I already said that.


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09 Jan 2013, 2:45 am

Verdandi wrote:
... a fashionable label for anything, unfortunately.


Praise Crom for that.

OP: best to see it as cancer of one organ (if you want to use cancer as an analogy), which varies in severity. Unless of course you think it's two organs (AS and AD), but you'll have to provide evidence for that to the powers that be.



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09 Jan 2013, 2:47 am

My use of "unfortunate" was more in reference to the way the word is so negatively characterized by some Aspies in these DSM-5 discussions.

League_Girl wrote:
I already said that.


You appeared to state the exact opposite - that at first it was not autism and over time came to be perceived as part of the spectrum.



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09 Jan 2013, 3:10 am

League_Girl wrote:
Autistic has become a fashionable word for people on the spectrum. Back then you had to be on the severe end to be autistic. Then when I was first diagnosed, AS and autism were two different things but AS had always been on the spectrum, it was always autism but autistic and Asperger's were two different things. Then starting high school, I started to see aspies call themselves autistic and I would get confused. "Wait, I thought he/she said he/she had Asperger's? You can't be autistic and have AS at the same time." Now today everyone on the autism spectrum is autistic. Now I am too after being told for years I was not and AS was just a form of it. It's taken me years to get used to having "autism" and hearing that word being applied to me. Now I have finally gotten used to autistic and I always assume they mean the spectrum, not that I am autistic. But I still cringe when I hear it. Same as me having autism. I just started saying autism now because they have proposed to eliminate AS from the DSM. Sometimes I still say AS.


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09 Jan 2013, 3:16 am

I am prone to missing bits of text in long paragraphs. I am sorry about that.



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09 Jan 2013, 4:05 am

I regard them as different and the lumping together is just lazy, ignorant and does not aid general understanding of it.

I probably should invest some time outlining my case for that but as DSM5 is printed soon and I'm not influencing the process - im lacking motivation really.

I find it a depressing step backwards.