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16 Jan 2013, 4:54 pm

Rascal77s wrote:
Guess you haven't met any really bad people.

Because they don't exist, as I said.
I've had plenty of people be plenty horrible to me... BUT I'm assured they had justifications for doing so, even if they might have been downright flimsy and absurd from my perspective... or just plain rooted in ignorance (much more common than I'd like).

In fact, the bitter irony of it all is that the vast majority of all that sh!t happens precisely BECAUSE people believe in morality. Precisely because someone can look at a person, believe them "bad" and thus justify being a dick to them with nothing more solid to back it up.
The whole thing is a farce.
People are just looking out for their own skin... frequently to the exclusion of everything else.



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16 Jan 2013, 5:00 pm

Hi,

Is there a Human Rights Commission? Or its equivalent? I am wondering as they can assess your case and if they take it up, maybe they will pick up your legal fees as well.

I agree with the logic regarding apologizing and your legal position - and I think I am in equally good company to agree your intentions were genuine and kind. You deserve dignity, respect, and kindness in turn.

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16 Jan 2013, 5:18 pm

And you all (at least some people) wonder why I refuse to disclose anything about my AS...



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16 Jan 2013, 6:07 pm

Hi Aspigirlus,

So this is a UK employer who told you to resign "immediately". Isn't this dismissal?

Not sure what the differences are between permanent employee and contractor, we have both where I work.

However the Equality Act 2010 would almost certainly apply in both cases, I would have thought. The relevant body is the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

Aspergers qualifies as a disability, so you would have protection because of a disability.

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/about-us/vision-and-mission/our-business-plan/disability-equality/

National Autistic Society do have an employment support service called Prospects.

If you are in employment, as a person with a disability, you are entitled to a Workplace Assessment (through Job Centre Plus). This should then lead to documented agreed reasonable adjustments which the employer must implement.

Failure to implement reasonable adjustments is a breach of the Equality Act 2010.

It is not sufficient ...

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Her reply was to say that she didn't profess to know about Asperger's.


That comment in itself is tantamount to an admission of failure to make reasonable adjustments. It's negligent.

If the company knew that you have Asperger, they should have sought out advice on what reasonable adjustments they should have made.

I still don't understand how they can tell you to resign. Resigning can adversely affect the benefits to which you may be entitled if you are out of work.

Do you belong to a union? If so, seek advice from them immediately.

Consider contacting http://www.equalityadvisoryservice.com/.

Sorry you are having such a tough time,

Barnabear.



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19 Jan 2013, 8:42 am

Barnabear, that is an amazing post. Gives me some hope and motivation to do something! Thanks again everyone. I guess we DO need to exert ourselves to get ourselves understood - otherwise we are guilty in a way for letting these kinds of situations perpetuate themselves. My sitting by and doing nothing won't help the next aspie who finds herself/himself dealing with this person will it?



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19 Jan 2013, 10:48 am

Hello.

I'm in no position to give advice because I am not in the UK and I don't know much about available help in such situations. I simply want to express my sympathy to the OP. Your boss is disgusting.

I don't think other people feeling nervous around you because they perceive you as odd or whatever justifies your forced resignation unless you have actually verbally/physically abused someone or threatened someone. You actually didn't do anything wrong. It's even possible that others weren't feeling nervous, but the boss just wanted to exaggerate and said "others" were nervous instead of "she" was.

I'm certain my colleagues see me as odd and I'm making them nervous. But as far as I'm concerned, I'm doing my best to be nice, though I am myself extremely nervous around others, which probably makes me look odd. It's just a social communication barrier. It's frustrating, though there are a few who seem to understand my good intentions.

It's so true that we are naive and take others' words/actions at face value. I've made a fool of myself numerous times because of that. I became very cautious, but then again I get fooled. I never seem to learn my lesson.



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19 Jan 2013, 11:42 am

aspigirlus wrote:
I have been contracting out my services to a company for the past five years now. But last year, they got a new boss and she has been consistently unkind to me. SHe knows I have Asperger's and she has accused me of all sorts of things, such as saying that the people in the office are nervous of me. This is all news to me. Why didnt she say so in the first place, and why didn't they? Everyone, as far as I knew was friendly. Anyway, to cut a long story short I have now had to resign because I obviously feel awful that people in the office are "nervous of me".
I told her about having Asperger's although I really dont think that, if this caused no problems previously, it should have suddenly done so. Her reply was to say that she didnt profess to know about As;lperger's. I have had 24 hours of being so upset and crying my eyes dont fit my face any more. I have had to resign, I asked initially to complete my work but she said "immediately"
I am in the UK. Where do I stand on this? As I say I have worked with these people for five years. I wrote to apologise to everyone but it is clear that they have been told not to reply to me as nobody has and I would have expected several replies for sure. I feel so sad, I didnt think I was a horrible person and it's really upsetting me.


It sounds like your new boss just said that you made people nervous when it wasn't true to begin with. Possibly she wants to move her friend or one of her people into your spot at work?
Honestly i would think you know if you made others nervous. They would have said something, it's likely someone would have nicely said something.
You should have never had to resign. That boss took advantage of you, knowing your a good person and would feel bad. Its very unfair.



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19 Jan 2013, 11:57 am

Can I ask what is the specific service you provide to this employer and was there a contract set up to run for a set period of time?

By my understanding, you chose to resign as you weren't happy with what this woman said or did she say they didn't want you to work for their company any more after you informed her that you had Asperger's Syndrome?

I'm finding it hard to understand the sequence of events so more background information would be useful

I'm taking my employer to an employment tribunal as I got dismissed last week, so I know how upsetting this feeling of rejection,
seemingly on the basis of having Aspergers, can feel.



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20 Jan 2013, 4:41 am

Even if you did make other people feel nervous that is not your fault.