i could probably kill someone if i wanted to

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... I don't, Not to the extent that they cause me distress. The last time I thought about killing someone I titrated my anti-depressant back down and stopped taking it. It was an intrusive thought that was due to a side effect, not the sort of thought that crosses my mind typically. Also, it was seven years ago.

Anyway, I think you mean truly psychopathic people do not care about these things, but one does not need to be a psychopath to kill. Someone who has a capacity for conscience and remorse may very well be distressed by thoughts about killing.



There is no reason to believe that "hunting" has anything to do with why people might think of killing or harming others. Predators, as a general rule, do not hunt their own species.

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^I'm guessing he was referring to the "carer" thing.

That's just you though. I've heard many a professional state it's perfectly normal to have them daily, though fleeting; that's not ideation (OCD over here after all); people can experience them daily, but they're fleeting and people realize they're silly. When you start to worry and obsess, you start to do compulsions to avoid it all (up to avoiding people altogether). If she saw someone now, they'll just say it's normal, but how much distress does it cause? Then they'll go from there.

Yes. The people who are distressed over this, worry about it, are less likely to do it than those who don't worry about it (that's not psychopathic people either, just the normal people who experience these thoughts).

Eh, it's the conclusion I came to. Since people don't hunt animals and think of it all that much anymore, people's thoughts can start to dwell and look for similar things. Like if you start worrying about things that aren't usually dangerous because the dangerous things aren't there anymore (germ phobia because the lion ain't around the corner no more). Perhaps a leap of logic, but it's always made sense to me.

Just saying what has helped me, and I've been through it all (OCD after all). Perhaps it was just a hobby that helped? Who knows.

Callista pretty much said it all (other than the conclusion of hunting I've come up with).

If you are going to take it back to such basics, then you might as well go all the way and not the image you have in your head. I'm sure that originally humans (or their ancestors) didn't even bother cutting out entrails, they probably ate everything such as a lion does. BTW we are not carnivores we are omnivores.

I disagree with your reasoning that OP is having these thoughts because of being a carnivore who needs to go out hunting to satiate it. And that's a dangerous presumption to make based on an online post as well.

It's always better to err on the side of caution, OP probably needs help over this. You don't know how sane or otherwise OP is or has the tendency to be.

And 'taking it out' on animals won't solve it, in the histories of psychopaths they frequently find that they killed and hurt animals in their youths. It is the stepping stone for them to worse things.

I really think you should see your doctor, people don't choose mental illness and if that is where this is heading it's far better that they know to start monitoring you. You wouldn't want to let things get out of control would you?

Perhaps this is nothing, but perhaps it is something. There are ordinary people with morbid fascinations after all.

What you had said is concerning though, and it needs investigating by your doctor.

PS I know you are only 16, but putting this post up on a public forum is exactly the type of thing that feeds the misconceptions of the ignorant, based on erroneous media stories about people with ASCs all being potential psychopaths who will go out on killing sprees. Just saying, not the most advised thing to post it on here,

Caveman could cook, and e-coli ain't good for us.

Why would she be having them then? Why would the majority of humans have them then? I put forward one possible reason for this. Could be wrong, could be right. Perhaps caveman had the same thoughts too. Though no one has given me a valid reason why people think of killing other humans. Seems like something a predator would do to me, but that's just me. Remember this: it's absolutely normal to think about killing others now and again. Normal. It doesn't mean you're homicidal -- the simple fact that she said she was worried means she's less likely to act on them than someone who isn't worried about the "normal" thoughts they have (ironic, no?)!

Nah, it's not "taking it out on animals", it's going back to how it was; where the blood and flesh are real, not within a plastic wrap on a foam base. Note how she responded to her own blood -- though that could be the endorphins (need to watch for self-harm from here on, though I probably shouldn't have mentioned that). This is hunting, not animal cruelty; two different things.

I can tell you right now what a professional will tell her. Because I've had approximately...5 tell me the exact same thing. It's "normal". It's not "normal" when you obsess over it and try to avoid others because you're afraid that you will harm them due to these thoughts (note how she says "worried").

Sure, it's always good to see someone if you're worried. Her money and well-being after all. I'm just letting it known how I've experienced something similar and no one could give me an answer (other than "it's normal"), so I looked myself and found one that made sense to me.

But before cavemen there were even more ancient human ancestors, and they would have not separated carcasses out and cooked them. What do you think happened before man discovered fire? I'm sure when they didn't know where their next meal was coming from they ate the whole lot and licked the bones clean too. Telling OP to go and hunt and clean out the insides of the kills, doesn't seem to be relevant. Once upon a time we had the digestive enzymes to be able to eat raw meat. We have evolved not to have them now because we have cooked food for so long so this is why we would get food poisoning now from eating uncooked meat.

My point being anyway, that you are saying that the reason she is having these thoughts is because of some natural instinct, we lose some natural instincts due to human evolution and the modern world. If that was the case then everyone would be thinking about murdering and enjoying blood and they are not.

I may have imagined killing someone when I remembered how badly they treated me (which is probably the brain's way of releasing some of the anger and frustration that person caused because you know you can't do it in real life and you wouldn't really want to), but that's very different from imagining just murdering people generally and being excited by blood.

It concerns me that you are dissuading OP from seeking professional help, when it could be really needed.

There are two issues in this post:

Firstly, that you have thoughts of killing people. I actually wouldn't be too concerned about this. I get similar thoughts when I am under too much stress. I spoke to my psychiatrist about it and she said that this is a normal reaction to stress and not to be afraid of my thoughts. And that there is a huge difference between thoughts and actions. That you think something does not mean that you have to act on it.

Secondly, the fascination with blood. I think this is fairly normal too. There is something hypnotic about it. However, if you start hurting yourself deliberately than you should go to your doctor. Self harming can be very dangerous.

That you are caring for your ferret and are concerned about the above experiences makes me think that you are not a dangerous person.

I'm the complete opposite.

hunting isnt right, because it's not right to murder innocent animals. the only time it's ok to kill an animal is if you're hungry, and there's no other way to get food, or mercy killing to prevent an animal from suffering.
join the army and shoot a few terrorists, as long as it's only terrorists you shoot and not some arab little kids or innocent bystanders.

I don't know about the enjoying blood part (people often fear blood, and that's for very real reasons -- blood = bad, because bleeding = bad), but the former is true to some extent -- people often experience these thoughts along with all others (at least daily -- fleeting). If they distress you enough (her that is), then by all means see someone -- that's a given. Unless it's OCD (obsessing over it till they become intrusive) or constant ideation over a specific person and plan (same with suicidal ideation), they won't do anything other than reassure her that it's normal though. People who experience the latter usually aren't worried over it though (because they'd be the homicidal ones). The professionals won't give her a reason for why she's experiencing this though (heightened anxiety? Only one possible reason which may or may not be right), other than the "normal" thingy and try not to worry about it.

Her worrying about it is a good thing, and I don't see anything to be worried about either.

(I still haven't seen any reasonable reason for why people think these things, other than being a predator. I'm open to all ideas, of course.)

I am usually more afraid of hurting people than wanting to harm them.

But then I had advanced moral development combined with my sensitivity and an idealistic nature when I was growing up and I don't think I ever grew out of it. I am more the do gooder type lol. Always stop and help, I'd even help my worst enemy if they needed it.

Soppy bugger I can be.

Except when I am forced to socialise too much or my routines/systems are all thrown out of wack, then I am just stroppy instead...

I had the same side effect when I was on mirtazapine. I no longer take medications (except simple painkillers when I get a migraine) and such intrusive thoughts have ceased.

I gave a low dose of Zoloft a go after that incident and so far it's been fairly pleasant with minimal side effects. A first for me and anti-depressants. Before that I wasn't going to take anything ever again.

I could kill someone to actually I think about it all day long
(but only the People I hate. not innocent People)

This is seriously the truth.

Why are you posting about a blood fetish on public internet forums? If you were to kill someone they would track you to the site like the last one who killed folks.

Either
A. You are making this up for attention
B. You are serious and need help
C. Have made this up for attention however truth in jest be said you really do fantasize about killing people and now have prevented yourself from becoming a killer since Anon could just ID you on the web.... aiiiiiiiii