Autism and Hunter Gatherer societies
Tyri0n wrote:
I doubt there were autistic people back then. If there were, they were likely either killed at birth or kicked out of the community unless they were super mild. Probably only BAP people even existed. It's likely some environmental factor that turns BAP (which is quite sensible as an evolutionary advantage in many circumstances) into autism.
BAP people can think outside the box and are good problem solvers. This would help for catching large prey with primitive tools. People with autistic traits can also become engrossed in subjects like weather, trap-making, or animal tracking (as I was as a child in a rural area). Daniel Boone may have been BAP.
My theory is that all of us are BAP NT's who were damaged by something in our environment. A cure, for us, would be basically just a narrow increase in our major deficiencies, including social skills and sensory issues, that wouldn't change our personalities or abilities much. I bet autistic traits in primitive societies were found in people like we would be if we were cured. Because being BAP is awesome while being autistic is horrible and sucks.
In total agreement. Let's talk about sickle cell anemia for a second. Sickle cell anemia is not a fun disease to have. It blows chunks, really. But the theory is that people who are just carriers of the gene and only have some of the symptoms actually have a genetic ability to fight off Malaria. The key being that Malaria attacks normal looking blood cells and sickle cell anemia peeps have sickle shaped blood cells. But if you have too many sickle shaped blood cells then your body never gets enough oxygen...
I'm assuming the BAP thing is also kind of directed at me since I indicate in my profile that I have family with autism. Yeah, my mom's 2 sisters each have a diagnosed autistic child. My aunts, mom, and grandpa seem to have some issues with social cues. I'm on here to learn better social skills cause I have a hard time with jobs and relationships.
VIDEODROME wrote:
I wonder if some such people might tend to become a Shaman type characters or a Medicine Man or Witch Doctor. They're not a typical tribal member or able to be a chief, but a person who fills an unusual niche.
The chief might even consult with them for insight, yet ironically they themselves would not likely be allowed to lead.
The chief might even consult with them for insight, yet ironically they themselves would not likely be allowed to lead.
It's interesting that you mention shamanism. I say that because in gay society we've found historically that many shamans were of the gay persuasion. My theory for that is that with a different perspective a gay male is better able to talk with women AND men. To give womena male persepctive and to give men a female perspective. A translator if you will. Someone with a different p.o.v. from yours is always better at offering advice because they often catch things that you wouldn't see from closeness induced familiarity. An AS would hence be better at offering advice to an NT tribe's chief. Also, they would be considered crazy by NTs. Which fits the shaman stereotype. (I've heard that in some Asian cultures craziness is revered(I wonder how or if that relates))
@cozysweater No, no you had it right. This was about autism. I was just relating a theory about ADHD kids and asking how autism fits in with that theory.
@Jinks That is a very nice clarification. For me it's important to identify positive traits and I tend to do so by looking up the history. I also feel that tribal chiefdoms are the supreme society. That it functions the best with human requirements.
bumble wrote:
"Oh I am sorry I lost the prey talking to ug over there, me and ug got distracted by the local gossip about og and well...is there a mcdonalds nearby perhaps we can get a burger from there instead?"
Most social chit chatters would not have survived as a hunter gatherer, they would have either starved or been eaten by something.
Most social chit chatters would not have survived as a hunter gatherer, they would have either starved or been eaten by something.
I chortled. I like where your heads at on the matter. I also wonder a lot about cavemen or homo sapiens neanderthalis. We know they had society because they held funerals. They felt some need to express the fact that they cherished their deceased loved one. There have been neanderthal bones found with arthritis, bent spines, and missing teeth from tooth decay. That skeleton is part of the misconception that cavemen walked in a stooped manner.. But that would seem to indicate that neanderthals cared for their elderly as much as we do. Well, much less than we do... Don't get me started. Obviously there was care involved by way of feeding them pulpy foods and carrying them when they were weak.
Could someone who was AS have adapted to society back then? Who's to say?
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