What do you think of people with autism/aspergers?

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daydreamer84
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12 Apr 2013, 1:19 pm

When I got the diagnosis and read the criteria and a couple things online -this was 14 years ago and there wasn't as much as there is now. I had an impression of someone really robotic and who's entire life revolved around collecting facts about some esoteric subject like trains and just rote memorizing the facts-only having a very shallow understanding of them. Worst of all I thought they were uncaring and indifferent to other people. Now I've come to realize that people with AS can have a variety of interests and personalities. They include girls who are interested in fantasy fiction and fantasy worlds like me and include people who are extremely intelligent and have a deep understanding of all kinds of subject matter, history, science ect, and include people who are not very intelligent (they aren't all geniuses either) and include people who are obsessed with video games or t.v shows or movies or politics or just about anything you can name. Some people with AS are arrogant and obnoxious and some are mean to others and some are very caring and kind.Basically , we're just people of all kinds who have a disability.

I think sometimes we come off as a"ret*d" because of our gauche, clumsy body language and facial expressions or weird voices (because of prosody issues) or because we have an awkward gait when we walk ect. We do have a neurological disorder and people are used to associating these neurological signs with intellectual disability but that's not always the case.

We come off as annoying because we don't read social cues correctly and we may interrupt because we don't know when it's our turn to talk in a conversation and we may go on and on too long because we don;'t know when to shut up ect. This makes us look rude and annoying sometimes. People might find the weird facial expressions and voices some have annoying too, I suppose.



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12 Apr 2013, 2:39 pm

To be honest, I do find other aspies annoying sometimes, and I certainly see how they are acting "weird", even if I simultaneously realize that I act the same way or did when I was younger. Sometimes they seem really oblivious to how they are presenting themselves and it makes me wonder to what extent I'm the same way. At the same time, I find them more interesting to talk to then NT's, because they tend to be more willing to talk in-depth about a topic instead of gossiping or making small talk.

Then there are people who are "higher functioning" than I am, who I tend to see as unusually likable (though possibly insecure) NT's until I get to know them better.



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12 Apr 2013, 5:17 pm

You went to a college seminar for "people with special needs".

And they all acted like a bunch of annoying ret*ds.

But were these people identified as being aspies, or as autistics?

You didnt make that clear in your OP.

Did you know for a fact that thats what they were?

If not then what are you basing your judgement on?



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12 Apr 2013, 5:43 pm

I see myself in other aspies and it makes me realise how annoying other people must find me

It's more of a level playing field among other aspies as at least I get given the time of day

with NTs you've got about 5 seconds to impress them in their 'language' and then they'll switch their attention elsewhere

Part of me does always want to impress NTs, to show I'm just as good as them, while another part resents their
having an advantage over me

I understand the snobbery that goes on between the different levels of autism on the spectrum

I'm more likely to have a problem with a person who sees themself as less autistic than me than
someone more autistic



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12 Apr 2013, 7:22 pm

daydreamer84 wrote:
When I got the diagnosis and read the criteria and a couple things online -this was 14 years ago and there wasn't as much as there is now. I had an impression of someone really robotic and who's entire life revolved around collecting facts about some esoteric subject like trains and just rote memorizing the facts-only having a very shallow understanding of them. Worst of all I thought they were uncaring and indifferent to other people. Now I've come to realize that people with AS can have a variety of interests and personalities. They include girls who are interested in fantasy fiction and fantasy worlds like me and include people who are extremely intelligent and have a deep understanding of all kinds of subject matter, history, science ect, and include people who are not very intelligent (they aren't all geniuses either) and include people who are obsessed with video games or t.v shows or movies or politics or just about anything you can name. Some people with AS are arrogant and obnoxious and some are mean to others and some are very caring and kind.Basically , we're just people of all kinds who have a disability.

I think sometimes we come off as a"ret*d" because of our gauche, clumsy body language and facial expressions or weird voices (because of prosody issues) or because we have an awkward gait when we walk ect. We do have a neurological disorder and people are used to associating these neurological signs with intellectual disability but that's not always the case.

We come off as annoying because we don't read social cues correctly and we may interrupt because we don't know when it's our turn to talk in a conversation and we may go on and on too long because we don;'t know when to shut up ect. This makes us look rude and annoying sometimes. People might find the weird facial expressions and voices some have annoying too, I suppose.


This is what what I think now, no need to rewrite. As a child I only knew a few classic autism children, I had in fact been book buddies at school with one, I had always thought they were primarly living in their own world and knew only 5 words, so you can imagine my surprise when I was told I had mild autism/aspergers, I flatly denied it for some time. I, like the OP could not see how I could share a neurotype and be in anyway simular with these people as I thought I was fairly normal. I feared appearing like the mis-comception of autism I had always known. I now know how wrong I was and how simular we really are compaired to the general population when the speech and some severity issues are taken out. I also now know why I always got along so well with the classic autism kids though and enjoyed my time with them.



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12 Apr 2013, 7:25 pm

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Well being one myself I think we're all ret*d and annoying :roll: , there is that what you wanted to hear?


Of course, what else would we be?
We also smell bad and have terrible singing voices.


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12 Apr 2013, 7:45 pm

Sometimes, when you are annoyed about personality traits of other persons, it might be for the simple reason that you find those unlikable personality traits in yourself.

If you are an alcoholic, you might be annoyed about other alcoholics. In the end, it is really just yourself you are annoyed with.



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12 Apr 2013, 9:18 pm

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Before you read on I honestly do not mean to offend anyone, if anyone feels offended I apologize ahead of time. If a mod thinks I can get the same message across and obtain the answers I'm looking for feel free to edit my words.

I was told of possibly having it. Consequently I was invited to a college class which deals with people with special needs to help them cope and learn skills that deals with being in college.

I spent the time observing people in the classroom and after the class I decided to have a conversation with the one person I thought seemed to most normal during the class.

I couldn't believe how annoying and ret*d everyone else was acting. I was wondering "Do people see me act that way sometimes?" Even the one person I chose to talk to after class. I left him thinking "I should have chose someone else to talk to"

I would like to know if people who have been diagnosed with the disease think the same way about their peers.

Now I probably have a bias against autism/aspergers. But I was mislead to what the class was about. I thought it was an average "introduction to college" class, until everyone began to talk. So that bias didn't come into mind until half way through the class.


Based on this post- i would think that you would be right at home with that bunch!



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12 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

diff wrote:
Before you read on I honestly do not mean to offend anyone, if anyone feels offended I apologize ahead of time. If a mod thinks I can get the same message across and obtain the answers I'm looking for feel free to edit my words.

I was told of possibly having it. Consequently I was invited to a college class which deals with people with special needs to help them cope and learn skills that deals with being in college.

I spent the time observing people in the classroom and after the class I decided to have a conversation with the one person I thought seemed to most normal during the class.

I couldn't believe how annoying and ret*d everyone else was acting. I was wondering "Do people see me act that way sometimes?" Even the one person I chose to talk to after class. I left him thinking "I should have chose someone else to talk to"


I would like to know if people who have been diagnosed with the disease think the same way about their peers.

Now I probably have a bias against autism/aspergers. But I was mislead to what the class was about. I thought it was an average "introduction to college" class, until everyone began to talk. So that bias didn't come into mind until half way through the class.


You know what?
What you have written is basically as horrible as
Quote:
I couldn't believe how irrational and idiotic everyone else (NT's) was acting. I was wondering "Do autistic people see me act that way sometimes?" Even the one person I chose to talk to after class. I left him thinking "I should have chose someone else to talk to"




Well, to be honest, I did an experiment on another thread, that was basically more or less the same with what you have written, only from an Aspie point of view.
You know what?
Apparently, it was so awful that even other Aspies find that message mean and horrible.

So, I think you should have a good think yourself on how mean and dreadful you are.
You can't just pick a group to be mean against, simply because that group was a minority.



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12 Apr 2013, 11:05 pm

I enjoy being around them more than I enjoy being around NTs. I feel that I can relate to them more easily. I like them so much, that I affectionately call them Sids after a favourite character of mine. :O)


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12 Apr 2013, 11:55 pm

On average, I like people with ASDs a little better than NTs. Some are nice; some are interesting; others are annoying or boring. It's the same with any group of people, except that when they have ASDs they are more likely to know interesting things, and more likely to share some of my oddities as well as being okay with my having said oddities. So my odds for connecting with somebody who has an ASD are a little higher than for people in general. I think it's the same for eccentric people, people with other disabilities, and nerdy people. There's just more common ground there.

I think at first I was a little bit uneasy about how many of them were odd in ways I wasn't; but you get used to that. Most disabled people grow up in a world where most people are NT and able-bodied, and it takes a little while to get used to interacting with other disabled people. But once you get used to it, once you're no longer scared you're going to offend somebody or look really stupid--at least no more than you usually do--it seems like there's more potential for friendship there than most places, what with the shared experience of being different.


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13 Apr 2013, 12:42 am

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I couldn't believe how annoying and ret*d everyone else was acting. I was wondering "Do people see me act that way sometimes?" Even the one person I chose to talk to after class. I left him thinking "I should have chose someone else to talk to"

I would like to know if people who have been diagnosed with the disease think the same way about their peers.

Now I probably have a bias against autism/aspergers. But I was mislead to what the class was about. I thought it was an average "introduction to college" class, until everyone began to talk. So that bias didn't come into mind until half way through the class.

Thank-you for apologising. It's not a disease, and 'ret*d' really isn't a very PC term to use, especially on this website.

1) They may not always act that way, they could have been more relaxed, more "themselves" in that environment.

2) When you say peers, I assume you mean other Aspie's you go to school with. Do I? Well, I don't actually. I have a pretty dissimilar way of thinking to you when it comes to this sort of thing. I do however wish some people would stop doing certain things, but I don't feel that way about all Aspie's I've gone to school with.

3) You've only met a few people with the condition who very most likely very anxious at the time, not everyone would be that "annoying" to you with Aspergers. Chances are you've gone to school with others and didn't find them annoying or anything at-all.


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