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CAL_1138
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07 May 2013, 10:58 pm

This doesn't have to do with aliens.

Invisiblesilent... like I said.. who would know how to deal with this information more than myself if I am the only one who knows it?

I realize you probably think I haven't considered this but believe me.. I have been thinking about this for years.

It's difficult to understand but like I said - if I let this leak slowly then people could discredit it before anyone even knows about it... me telling the people here isn't going to get this out to the masses.... you have to think deeply to understand why that is. It's like the more people who spread this info now the more it could damage my cause when I am ready to give it because then people could try to use the info I put out to make TV shows or video games etc etc etc...

This is why I say when I release the info it has to be a big splash... and if not then to get to that point I need to try to ensure the people I do tell help me get this info out the right way.

The info is also complex.. so me just giving parts of it now won't really convey what I need to as well.. just telling you how big this is accomplishes that just as well. This is information that if people fully understand it will change the world. The fully understanding part is the hard part though... I might be able to do it myself.. but if I had good help then it would improve my chances...

Also, I have the evidence to back it up.. but to my knowledge that proof isn't easy.. someone may be able to figure out an easy way to rpove it but I haven't yet..

The way I figured it out was by going through information for years and piecing it together to make a new picture no one has made before. My goal is to tryto help people see this more quickly than it took me.

If I just told you what it was you wouldn't have any reason to believe me without going through that info. But people could use my conclusion for their own purposes and not even know I brought it to people... and then people would really ignore what I have to say because it wouldn't be unique..

And this is my problem.. how do I get people to look into this more deeply to help me document it? To do that I have to document it...


Think of it like an invention... imagine I gave people an idea of an invention I thought of but because it is a message board I couldn't show people exactly how it worked.... other people could then go out and try to make the same thing but they are missing the key component that makes my invention so perfect. So if there are a 100 people out there all trying to get the same invention mass produced then people may not ever realize mine is the real deal. That is how disinformation works. disinformation is used to make it so people can't tell whats the truth or not... so people can never figure out the truth. If I release this info and don't do it in the right way others could unintentionally or intentionally prevent others from looking at the info I present. This has already happened o an extent but I dont want to enhance it.

One thing I find odd is how I am an aspie and discovered all this... and it seems to me aspies are being discredited of late. This is an example of another way to prevent this info from getting out.



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08 May 2013, 12:58 pm

This 'discovery' of yours seems to be sociological, or political, in nature.

Maybe there is some political muckracking magazine that you can contact with this.



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08 May 2013, 1:08 pm

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This 'discovery' of yours seems to be sociological, or political, in nature.

Maybe there is some political muckracking magazine that you can contact with this.


It ties into everything in the world.. but the proof is more scientific.. but the problem is many in science are brainwashed.. and science has become like religion... so someone who knows too much about science could be as bad as someone who knows nothing.



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08 May 2013, 1:49 pm

I'm sorry Cal but I feel I have to agree with Si 82 and invisiblesilent. The way describe your finding is less than convincing. If it is worth hearing, let us hear it. A tested idea is surely more valuable if it proves true.



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08 May 2013, 1:54 pm

Well, let's start with this:

Are you planning on a documentary about the discovery, like a textbook and just explaining the idea, or a fiction story with this idea as it's theme?


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08 May 2013, 1:57 pm

How can people make determinations when they don't have all the info? This is why we are in the position we are today.. because people jump to conclusions without the facts.,..



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08 May 2013, 2:00 pm

Zodai wrote:
Well, let's start with this:

Are you planning on a documentary about the discovery, like a textbook and just explaining the idea, or a fiction story with this idea as it's theme?


If I knew someone with documentary experience that might be a way to go.. I was planning on a fictional type graphic novel story AND a text book type graphic novel..



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08 May 2013, 2:03 pm

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How can people make determinations when they don't have all the info? This is why we are in the position we are today.. because people jump to conclusions without the facts.,..


It's difficult. So much easier when you give them the facts. However in this case you are causing the problem you are complaining about by not providing said facts.



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08 May 2013, 2:09 pm

Let's use aliens as an example.. it's not aliens at all but it will make a good example...

Let's pretend that my "secret" was that aliens exist and I have discovered scientific PROOF that shows this is true.

If I just told you that would you believe it?

To prove it I would need to show you all the evidence I looked through and piece it together the way I did... AND then provide the way I was able to put the pieces together that others did not to figure out why I am right.

But there is a unique angle to my discovery too.. like in this scenario lets say I also discovered that the aliens had some incredible secret about them... something no one had ever thought of before... and this idea was so unique that people would likely want to take this angle and use it for movie or video game ideas because it was so unique.. even though they didn't really take it seriously in the real world.

This is the problem I face with what I have discovered... and it's why I feel I have to be careful how I convey this info.. I feel there is a big responsibility there..



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08 May 2013, 2:12 pm

UDG wrote:
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How can people make determinations when they don't have all the info? This is why we are in the position we are today.. because people jump to conclusions without the facts.,..


It's difficult. So much easier when you give them the facts. However in this case you are causing the problem you are complaining about by not providing said facts.


I have told you why that is though.... trying to force me to do that by questioning my intelligence or legitimacy doesn't help matters... think about the ramifications of your actions. I am thinking about the ramifications of mine...

Have you ever heard the term "shooting the messenger"?



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08 May 2013, 2:14 pm

It seems like the onus is on you to convince others that you are a good investment.



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08 May 2013, 2:19 pm

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It seems like the onus is on you to convince others that you are a good investment.


But I need someone to show me that they are a good investment too... it works both ways.. that's the problem...

I understand the problem.. I have been dealing with it for awhile.. which is why I was forced to try to do it myself in the first place... I have a new problem thrown into the mix now though... my living situation..


What I have found in dealing with this dilemma is that people seem to be afraid to look into this.. they are afraid that I am right for some reason. For example.. I told this discovery to a relative of a famous deceased scientist and she said she thought I was miles ahead of anyone else she had heard of. She was the one that told me I should write a book. When I told this to some writers when I was looking for help they all backed down and seemed to be afraid to find out more... they attacked my credibility too...

How do you help people that are afraid to even explore these issues?



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08 May 2013, 2:35 pm

CAL_1138 wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
It seems like the onus is on you to convince others that you are a good investment.


But I need someone to show me that they are a good investment too... it works both ways.. that's the problem...


You don't have people queueing up to offer their time, knowledge or finances. So I still feel the same as above.



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08 May 2013, 2:41 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
CAL_1138 wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
It seems like the onus is on you to convince others that you are a good investment.


But I need someone to show me that they are a good investment too... it works both ways.. that's the problem...


You don't have people queueing up to offer their time, knowledge or finances. So I still feel the same as above.


So ask yourself this then.. could I say anything here that would convince people to go through what I did to figure this all out?

That's the entire problem...

Skipping to the punchline isn't going to change that.. it's just going to cause people to steal the punchline.. so then even if I write it myself it will be wasted time most likely..

Should I quit trying because of these issues? All I need is one person who is capable of helping.. then I can begin that process of "proving myself"...



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08 May 2013, 2:50 pm

CAL_1138 wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
CAL_1138 wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
It seems like the onus is on you to convince others that you are a good investment.


But I need someone to show me that they are a good investment too... it works both ways.. that's the problem...


You don't have people queueing up to offer their time, knowledge or finances. So I still feel the same as above.


So ask yourself this then.. could I say anything here that would convince people to go through what I did to figure this all out?


I did and the answer is still the same.



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08 May 2013, 2:54 pm

neilson_wheels wrote:
CAL_1138 wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
CAL_1138 wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
It seems like the onus is on you to convince others that you are a good investment.


But I need someone to show me that they are a good investment too... it works both ways.. that's the problem...


You don't have people queueing up to offer their time, knowledge or finances. So I still feel the same as above.


So ask yourself this then.. could I say anything here that would convince people to go through what I did to figure this all out?


I did and the answer is still the same.


There is another angle to this... see.. the people keeping this secret have rigged the game... so even if I told you what this was about you would think it is ridiculous.. see we have been made to be hyper skeptical just as you and others are. It's by design.... People are afraid of becoming a "conspiracy theorist" That's not an accident. It's demonization..

That is why people won't even seek to find out more out of curiosity....

Yet I will still keep trying.. I don't have a choice...