Can people with aspergers manipulative others?

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I can do guilt trips. It only works is if the person is weak and can easily be guilt tripped or they let themselves be made feel guilty. I used to do them all the time, it didn't always work though but sometimes it did so I did it hoping it will work.

I have to know how someone works to play them. I have said stuff to my husband during sex I knew would turn him on so he could cum quicker and be done with it. But this didn't last long because he knew after a few times I was lying so he could cum quicker so that manipulative method quit working.

Don't try and control my emotions and anxiety and just let it happen hoping I will get my way so I can be calm and not be all stressed out and upset or have to deal with the distress. But yet I hate this because I hate having all these feelings inside me and having these episodes.



I also knew an aspie who was very manipulative. He was a pathological liar and he always made himself to be the victim and he abused his mother to get his way. He knew she was afraid of him so he knew to play her by getting violent and abusive and she always gave into him and he could control her. He also had ODD so that was the reason why he was the way he was. I think his main issue was ODD. His mother said his AS was mild but he seemed pretty severe because he had other problems too. I think his ODD was very severe. But yet he would put on this mask at my house and was this sweet charming boy but to my brothers he was a nasty bully and threw an ax at them and their friends in my grandfather's forest and he came back to my house and said my brother and their friends were not nice to him. Months later I find out what he actually did and he had painted this picture that my brothers were the bullies and mean to him when he was actually the bully and he was actually hospitalized for throwing the ax at my brothers and their friends. He had like split personalities, Dr. Jekyll and Hyde I call it.


I sometimes wonder where do people get the idea autistic people don't manipulate or are unable to. I knew someone online with severe Asperger's who asked me the same thing and she told me she used to throw a tantrum in stores whenever she wanted to leave because she knew if she had one, they leave. They were not meltdowns. She learned whenever she had an episode in the store, they always left so she started to fake them whenever she wanted to leave. I think anyone can manipulate, it's human nature and even infants do it too even though they have no TOMs. All they know is if they cry they get what they need so they know if they fake it, they will get anything they want. I had a friend with Down's syndrome who would poop her pants in school because she knew if she did that, she will go home because she had diarrhea once and messed herself, she got to go home because she was sick. It gave her the idea if she didn't want to be in school, poop in her pants and she will go home. Wouldn't that count as manipulation? She even wrote her name in my Arthur books once thinking she could trick me into thinking they were hers. I think that was attempted manipulation there. Some are more manipulative than others and not all manipulation is bad.

I don't fully understand what "manipulation" is. It's not something I consciously try to do with calculated effort but sometimes people will feel manipulated and accuse me of it.

Not as good as the common person at least.

Manipulation requires social ability (oftentimes lots).

Myself, have no idea how one could do it.

LeagueGirl; oops; I can see why you have taken my comment as directed to you. It wasn't. I was using your honestly insightful comment to illustrate my belief that even the least sophisticated among us can and will manipulate. (You are certainly not unsophisticated; on the contrary, in my opinion.)

The manipulation you mentioned; just letting go and having a tantrum in order to get your way is manipulation stripped to it barest form and used by children commonly (and by myself on rare occasions).

I think it's good introspection on your part to be able to admit this to yourself and it's generous that you shared it. I am among the admirers of your posts in general.