Watching TV and autism- a connection?

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20 Jan 2007, 11:07 am

That big brother wasn't bullying it was conflict with 2 wrong personalities clashing they is a difference... That happens allot to anyone...


( racist bullying ), not racist even the person did not feel it and if you watch the cut out of her saying sorry to her about it that it wasn't racist it was the fact she just didn't like her...

By the way that's real tv hand picked to cause the most drama...

Thats just normal of them people to put out racist.... It was a mastake to stick Shilpa Shetty into Big Brother as if it was a gay, a white or a black it would not of been called racist... Just these people as I seen on public interview quote ( England is allot differnt to india or where ever else they come from ).


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Jade, who denied being a racist, said: “In all honesty I am disgusted with myself witnessing what I have seen.

“I do not approve of any of my actions and I do not approve of the words that came out of my mouth.”

When Jade walked out of the house, instead of a noisy crowd she was greeted by an eerie silence after Big Brother bosses cancelled the audience in the wake of the furore.

Before filling her in on the international condemnation her behaviour has attracted, Davina told her: “You must be one of the only people in England or around the planet who had no idea of the impact that Celebrity Big Brother has had.”

Davina, who shares an agent with the former dental nurse, then proceeded to give Jade a fierce grilling over the allegations that have overshadowed her time in the house.

“I am not a racist person,” Jade insisted.

But after watching the film she said she could see why her actions had caused such a row

“I look like a complete and utter nasty small person – the sort of person I don’t like myself. I am not a racist and I sincerely, with my hand on my heart, apologise to anyone I have offended out there.

“It was not meant in the way it was shown.”

She added: “I am not going to sit here and try to justify myself. Yes, I said those things and they were nasty but no, I am not a racist.

“I do not judge people by the colour of their skin, where they come from or anything.

“What that house has taught me is that people can come from different countries and different backgrounds and they are just different. It doesn’t meant they are not genuine.”

Jade, who did have some inkling of the race row that was raging outside the Big Brother house, pleaded with the show’s producers to let her avoid the eviction night crowd. She said she was “petrified” by the idea of facing the public “because people think I’m a racist b***h”.

“I’ve never been more scared in my life. I swear to that,” she said.

The Big Brother veteran was also spared the prospect of the post-eviction press conference.

Media watchdog Ofcom has now received around 40,000 complaints about the show – some of them over editorial bias.


I think jade would be the one classed under as a victim as she is fearing...



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20 Jan 2007, 12:14 pm

I'm not sure that TV has any causal effect on AS. With me in some ways it is almost the other way round. I watch a lot of things that I see as "escapism" so I can try and switch off from the problems I had in the day. I also watch things when people are around as an excuse not to have to interract with them.

When I was a kid, we were in the 3 channels era and no transmissions overnight or even at points during the day, so my exposure was pretty limited. I can't see that it had any impact or effect on my formative years.



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20 Jan 2007, 12:24 pm

I'm just going to point out that an interesting trend in modern film (mostly, TV still has yet to catch up to this trend) is the use of "actual" dialogue as opposed to scripted, perfectly placed dialogue. IE, writers are incorporating "ums","ahs", "ohs" and "what was that?" a lot more than the early days of film. I know in the screenplays I write, I write what I know, and I know awkward dialogue (people have commented that my dialogue feels so real, like these conversations have actually taken place) from being someone who is the Queen Bee of awkward conversations. I love movies that incorporate people asking someone to repeat themselves, people who misunderstand what the other character is saying, characters that have a hard time speaking, or have a hard time relating, and pauses in the dialogue that are excruciatingly long, but say way more than what the words are saying.

These are all elements of modern independent film that TV and Hollywood have yet to pick up on, but its why more and more people are into indie film, more and more people are able to relate to it.

Sorry, film is one of my true obsessions in life. :oops:



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20 Jan 2007, 12:54 pm

I remember most children at primary school being quite proficient at basic swearing by age 10, and then covering up their true language skills for at least another 4 years.

South Park is closer to the truth than many people choose to admit.


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20 Jan 2007, 1:49 pm

Veronica wrote:
I'm just going to point out that an interesting trend in modern film (mostly, TV still has yet to catch up to this trend) is the use of "actual" dialogue as opposed to scripted, perfectly placed dialogue. IE, writers are incorporating "ums","ahs", "ohs" and "what was that?" a lot more than the early days of film. I know in the screenplays I write, I write what I know, and I know awkward dialogue (people have commented that my dialogue feels so real, like these conversations have actually taken place) from being someone who is the Queen Bee of awkward conversations. I love movies that incorporate people asking someone to repeat themselves, people who misunderstand what the other character is saying, characters that have a hard time speaking, or have a hard time relating, and pauses in the dialogue that are excruciatingly long, but say way more than what the words are saying.

These are all elements of modern independent film that TV and Hollywood have yet to pick up on, but its why more and more people are into indie film, more and more people are able to relate to it.



Yes,the dialogue in TV and films has always shown
an idealistic portrayal of conversations,without the
'ums' and 'ah's' that occur IRL.
If anyone is using TV as a template for measuring their own conversational skills,they may be setting their sights too high and start to feel a little
inadequate.



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20 Jan 2007, 5:49 pm

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I wonder how much influence watching TV has on our development ?
On TV there's a difference in the way people interact compared to reality and it's possible that when we watch TV and are then faced with the outside world, in some people these differences can cause confusion and 'cross-wiring' in the thought process.

For example on TV or films the dialogue is mostly scripted and rehearsed. When characters speak there is usually a pause,then the next person has their say.Speech is usually articulated and meaningful and the sound is set at the best level.Nobody says 'Pardon,can you repeat that please ?' In some programmes,witty one-liners are portrayed as being
instinctive behaviour (this can make us feel inadequate if we're not always as quick-witted)
Offensive language is modified or indicated in advance.Programmes are subject to routine and timetables.

By contrast,in reality people often speak all at once or in quickfire succession.They sometimes mumble and jump from one subject to another at random.
They don't always mean what they say.Words can be used inappropriately and background noise can often make it difficult to hear what's being said.Offensive words are used as if they're accepted vocabulary.
People don't necessarily follow routine or timetables.

It may be there is a genetic reason why some people find it more difficult to differentiate between the more ordered world of TV from reality.
I don't think there's any way that TV is a 'cause' of autism but there could be a case for it being a factor in its development!


I rarely watched television growing up. As far differentiating from television and reality is concerned, I think that is more a result of constant exposure to entertainment than it is a genetic dispostion to imagining things.

I think there is an inverse relationship between the attention span of an individual and the number of channels available to him.


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21 Jan 2007, 12:10 am

TV is more educational really; I would not even know half the stuff I know without a TV, unless I came across the books which would be less than likely...

How many females share they makeup with someone, U know you can literally go blind from using someone else’s makeup...

TV can cover more stuff in less time than a book can, as you got to keep picking up a new one read a bit put down move next one...

With TV it's able to switch without changing...

Also I would not know about con artists and the tricks they do, I am more aware of the strategies their use...

If anything someone watching TV will probably know allot more than someone who doesn’t…

I know how to trick people into buying beers as use a geometry trick on them or a coin one…

I know so much stuff that if I wasn’t in front of a TV I would never have knew, I am a practical learner, I need to read a book more than once sometimes

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21 Jan 2007, 2:42 pm

I absolutely love tv. I never watch soaps or sitcoms but I love the documentary channel, the National Geographics channel, Law & Order, CSI, & the docs about history & rare medical conditions. I could lie & watch TV for all my waking hours if time permitted! As it stands now, with a husband 2 kids & full time university studies, I have too many other demands on my time to watch much tv.



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21 Jan 2007, 4:21 pm

I agree with what some people on this topic have said about TV giving people unrealistic expectations of how things happen in reality.
For a long time my parents always used to have a go at me because i based my views of reality on the simpsons. I think even now when i imagine/prepare for things that are going to happen they tend to play out in my head a lot like they would on TV, which in a lot of situations leaves me unprepared for what actually happens.



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22 Jan 2007, 10:35 am

pluto wrote:

For example on TV or films the dialogue is mostly scripted and rehearsed. When characters speak there is usually a pause,then the next person has their say.Speech is usually articulated and meaningful and the sound is set at the best level.Nobody says 'Pardon,can you repeat that please ?'


I certainly find that I don't have the problems understanding people on TV or following their conversations that I do in real life, for just the same kind of reasons that you gave above.

Likewise I seldom have problems understanding humor on TV, because the joke, the punchline, is carefully set up and it's in your face when it comes. Even if I don't personally find it particularly funny, I can still see it. Whereas I tend to be unsure a lot of the time when people around me are joking and when they aren't.



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22 Jan 2007, 10:48 am

I don't watch TV and I only miss it when I have a cold or something. I like a couple of sitcoms but with most of them I don't like the look or the timing. I don't like any hospital or law dramas. I sometimes like cop shows if the guys look good. Mostly I like to watch the news or documentaries.



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22 Jan 2007, 2:33 pm

I can't watch television. I don't like it one bit. I used to tolerate it quite well but I quit watching for the entirety of my time at university and when I came home again I had totally lost the knack for watching it. I can't get over the fact that the people I'm seeing aren't "real".

For some reason I don't mind movies, although I tend to be most fond of movies without real physical humans in. I get on best with cartoons, and CG movies, and puppet-centric movies like Dark Crystal or Labyrinth, very likely because you're not going to see those characters being someone else tomorrow. Otherwise I tend to have a problem accepting that Sean Connery will be James Bond one day and King Arthur the next. Or that guy (forgive me I have NO sense of celebrities) who played Count Dooku in SW Episodes 2 and 3 was also Saruman, and Willy Wonka's father!! Busy life he must lead!

Television, in the sense of everyday television, news and ads, just creeps me out. It seems like it just tries to make you afraid of everything so you'll buy stuff. It teaches you to sit down shut up and accept whatever it tells you. And what it tells you is YOUR BREATH SMELLS/YOU'RE TOO FAT/TERRORISTS WILL BLOW YOU UP IF WE DON'T DECLARE WAR/BAD MEN WILL SHOOT YOU SO NEVER GO OUT AT NIGHT/NEIGHBORS ARE ENEMIES/YOU'LL BE UGLY WITHOUT THIS LOTION/YOUR KIDS WILL HATE YOU IF THEY DON'T GET THIS TOY.

I wonder if I am the only person by now who has never watched any of a single Big Brother program. Glancing at the papers this week I'm all "Who is Jade? And why are we reading about her instead of getting actual news?"



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22 Jan 2007, 3:36 pm

I understand the difference. I think it's because we don't understand the scripted dialogue. People with AS like to tell it like it is. If a lot of actors beat around the bush, it makes us wonder for so much longer that we often don't understand what they are trying to say. It takes us a very long time.


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22 Jan 2007, 4:10 pm

I think I may have learned stuff by watching how people act on the tv. It's probably not very accurate, but it's something. I think I may even act like certain characters on the tv without realizing it.

I remember I use to watch Rugrats a lot when I was little. Soon I noticed I started picking up some of their baby talk and started using it. I usually only use it around my mom. If I acted this way in public I'm sure people would think I talk like a little kid.

Likewise I noticed after playing The Sims for a while I started to pick up on their behavior. I started acting like them. For example, sticking my hand to my mouth or rubbing my tummy when I was hungry. Or, putting my hands to my head and stomping my feet when I'm frustrated. It's really quite hilarious when I think about it. :lol:

So, yeah I think I do imitate some things from the tv. Though I've never been told so, I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me I act like a certain character on tv.


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