Do NTs have an automatic ability that Autistics lack?

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11 Jul 2013, 6:03 pm

Social skills duh aiiiiiiii

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11 Jul 2013, 7:35 pm

btbnnyr wrote:

NTs have automatic social processing. :albino:

I love this bunny so much. :albino:

At last we know the one defining point between neurotypicality and autism.

NTs have automatic social processing, whereas autistics love that bunny so much.

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11 Jul 2013, 7:56 pm

It's true. The bunny is pretty amazing. No one can deny it.

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11 Jul 2013, 8:01 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

btbnnyr wrote:

NTs have automatic social processing. :albino:

I love this bunny so much. :albino:

At last we know the one defining point between neurotypicality and autism.

NTs have automatic social processing, whereas autistics love that bunny so much.

Yes, NTs utilize their talent for social processing and manipulation while autistics are just interested in communicating a truth.
I like the bunny too.

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11 Jul 2013, 9:13 pm

y'know, that's pretty bunny! :lol:

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11 Jul 2013, 9:21 pm

Marybird wrote:

Yes, NTs utilize their talent for social processing and manipulation while autistics are just interested in communicating a truth.
I like the bunny too.

NTs really know how to sell a lie. Dirty work, somebody's got to do it.
I am indifferent to the bunny.
I prefer millipedes.

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11 Jul 2013, 9:38 pm

Bunny! Bunny! Bunny! :albino:

I have a flash drive that resembles the bunny.

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11 Jul 2013, 10:10 pm

btbnnyr wrote:

I have a flash drive that resembles the bunny.

I would have expected nothing less of you. Fill the world w/ bunnies, I won't (couldn't possibly) stop you.
*Crawls under moss.*

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11 Jul 2013, 11:40 pm

From what I've gather I've concluded that if autism's root can generalized it would be a disorder of informational processing. I'd say the lacked ability would be a "filter", though the GPU analogy is accurate.

Ps. Bunnies are cool.

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11 Jul 2013, 11:59 pm

Popsicle wrote:

As an NT I found it very difficult to process the original post or to follow the replies that came afterward. I was hoping someone replying could somehow unlock the mystery of that for me.

I wonder if its the computer terminology thats confusing you a bit. It took me a while to get it, and I'm pretty good with computers. I'll try and explain.

A useful example to think about is: how does your brain recognise a tree? The answer is that at some point when you were very young you took in some information along the lines of:

leaves + branches + trunk = tree

Your brain has then stored that as information. The thing is though, when you see a tree today you don't think to yourself "hmmm theres a thing with leaves, branches and a trunk, I wonder what that is? Aha, I remember. Its a tree!". You dont need to do that, your brain kind of magically does it all for you. That brain magic is like a computer program, and the process of turning the leaves + branches + trunk = tree information into "brain magic" is called compiling in computer terminology.

What I think the OP is saying is that autistics have a tendancy to store information e.g leaves + branches + trunk = tree rather than "programs" e.g. the brain magic of instant tree recognition.

Obviously thats just an example. I am sure most high functioning autistics can recognise trees just fine. But when it comes to more complicted programs, e.g social skills, maybe they struggle. They have the information about social skills, but not the program.

@OP I like your idea a lot, it makes a lot of sense to me. Its nothing Ive ever come across or thought about before. Thanks for sharing.

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13 Jul 2013, 8:08 am

I guess there are some other benefits of not being able to store these programs well. One of these is that I'm much better at learning languages than most people are. I speak English less fluidly than most people, but since the rules of English aren't as automatic for me, differences in grammar, differences in the sounds of letters, and slight differences in the definitions of words, don't faze me at all when trying to learn a new language. Since there aren't as many programs in my brain as there are in most people's, my brain is less prone to confusing new tasks with tasks that it's already learned. Not storing the programs well is both a strength and a weakness.

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13 Jul 2013, 8:58 am

The bunnylover said it. Here's a paper on NTs and automatic social processing: http://www.sagepub.com/upm-data/12329_Chapter4.pdf

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13 Jul 2013, 12:58 pm

I don't agree with the NT = liar part.

A lot of NT are moral enough not to lie or even to abhor lying and liars. Not all even make good car salespeople.

Lying is more of a sociopathic trait.

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13 Jul 2013, 1:12 pm

auntblabby wrote:

Lockeye wrote:

4) Autists lack the social reinforcement mechanism necessary for using the parallel processing region of the brain for social learning and instead use serial processing to learn social actions (much slower and limited). The parallel processing region is instead used to perform some kind of gift of parallel calculations, such as having a strong knack at memorizing large sets of data, mathematical computation, pattern detection, music patterns, or literary genius.

but what about those of us who are both social duds as well as talent [savant] duds as well?

That makes you a SUPER dud. :lol:

(I don't believe this by the way.)

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13 Jul 2013, 4:42 pm

We don't have a filtering ability, but this allows us to notice more things? I dunno...

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14 Jul 2013, 2:36 am

neilson_wheels wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

Lockeye wrote:

but what about those of us who are both social duds as well as talent [savant] duds as well?

That makes you a SUPER dud. :lol:

(I don't believe this by the way.)

you don't believe i'm a super dud?

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